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Neg Feedback Deserving Behavior

Yeah we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. IMO, If you won't answer what would be considered common questions and consider that "jumping through hoops" that is a red flag and you can't have my money. If you don't want to sell to the general public then do private sales not public listings.

Buyers market does not mean the buyer has a right to be a jerk. They do however have a right to ask questions so they can make an informed purchase decision. They are considering giving you their money for your products/services/goods. Thus buyers market.
LOL. How many things have you sold online? In sales, if you have something people want, the other thing you have are people who will buy it. There are people who will make it easy for you, and there are people who will make it difficult. If you understand that time is money, you will have that thing sold before you even have a chance to answer the 25 questions some other guy has tossed into your inbox. So, yeah, if that's a buyer's market, it's only a buyer's market for the guy who isn't wasting my time.

If you have something that nobody wants, you can call that a buyer's market, but if nobody wants it, who cares? In reality it's only EVER a buyer's market if you're needy enough to make a deal that the buyer likes. And many of us just aren't that needy.
 
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LOL. How many things have you sold online? In sales, if you have something people want, the other thing you have are people who will buy it. There are people who will make it easy for you, and there are people who will make it difficult. If you understand that time is money, you will have that thing sold before you even have a chance to answer the 25 questions some other guy has tossed into your inbox. So, yeah, if that's a buyer's market, it's only a buyer's market for the guy who isn't wasting my time.

If you have something that nobody wants, you can call that a buyer's market, but if nobody wants it, who cares? In reality it's only EVER a buyer's market if you're needy enough to make a deal that the buyer likes. And many of us just aren't that needy.

A buyer's market is created when there is a supply greater than demand. This can come through economic downturns, overproduction, or market change such as new products, new fads, etc. An individual or group of seller's being unwilling to budge on a price doesn't make it a seller's market, actual market conditions do. The seller having to re-list the bass may indeed be an indicator that it's a buyer's market. It may also just indicate that he or she is a poor salesperson.
 
See? OP DIDN'T buy a bass. No feedback without a transaction. No transaction.

And yet, here we are 8 pages in still arguing about it. My prediction was thirty pages. Anyone wanna bet?

It would appear the scope of the discussion has branched beyond the feedback/transaction element of the scenario. Therefore, the pages have indeed multiplied.

Even still, 30 pages is overly optimistic at this point. The fervor is subsiding.
 
If a merchant isn’t mature enough to politely refuse service without calling someone an “ass”, they don’t deserve any business at all.
Referring to a random ebay seller as a "merchant" is a bit of a stretch. It's just a normal dude with little tolerance for anyone who is too nitpicky. It's a personal problem for him that he will just have to cope with.
 
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I don't think this is really a good analogy at all. It would be more like if it was a home built car from custom spec parts and the seller was the second owner.

My feeling on it is that the seller should have been able to answer at least the question of if it has any mechanical or electrical issues. As an eBay seller myself, I would never treat a potential customer the way this seller did, even if I did find the question a bit tactless. But oh well, in the end I think it's just important to conduct yourself professionally and if the seller is not answering your questions in a way that would make you confident moving forward with the purchase, just consider it a dodged bullet and move on.
Look, I'm not defending the seller. He's clearly dodgy and I'd stay a million miles away from him.

It's just ridiculous how the OP and seller exchanged went from 0-100 in one message and the threats of negative feedback started just becase the seller couldn't/wouldn't answer questions to the OP's satisfaction.

Just move on. It wasn't meant to be and someone else will get a bargain or a nightmare buying from the seller.
 
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“do you have the instrument” I mean he did ask the question. How was he to know if the guy had the bass or was selling it for someone else.

Now, read the exchange again, and see if you still think it was a plain question, or loaded.

It's a bit like "but I only asked if he was stupid"... no, you were not wondering about the intellectual capacity of the other person, you know, out of curiosity... and you know it ;)
 
LOL. How many things have you sold online? In sales, if you have something people want, the other thing you have are people who will buy it. There are people who will make it easy for you, and there are people who will make it difficult. If you understand that time is money, you will have that thing sold before you even have a chance to answer the 25 questions some other guy has tossed into your inbox. So, yeah, if that's a buyer's market, it's only a buyer's market for the guy who isn't wasting my time.

If you have something that nobody wants, you can call that a buyer's market, but if nobody wants it, who cares? In reality it's only EVER a buyer's market if you're needy enough to make a deal that the buyer likes. And many of us just aren't that needy.
I'm a bit surprised by your response to this matter. Being rude to a potential customer for having logical questions makes no sense. Especially in an online purchase where the buyer can not do a hands on evaluation. As stated in another post, supply & demand determine the market and imo it is a buyers market for luxury items such as musical instruments; electronics, etc. in the current economy.

On a personal note I would like to thank you for such spirited responses. I find your insight and perspectives very helpful in many posts here on TB. Be well & happy Holidays LBS
 
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Look, I'm not defending the seller. He's clearly dodgy and I'd stay a million miles away from him.

It's just ridiculous how the OP and seller exchanged went from 0-100 in one message and the threats of negative feedback started just becase the seller couldn't/wouldn't answer questions to the OP's satisfaction.

Just move on. It wasn't meant to be and someone else will get a bargain or a nightmare buying from the seller.

I agree entirely. My last comment on conducting oneself professionally was a general sentiment towards dealing with people online, not targeted at the seller.
 
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reminds me of my inquiry to an add for a jazz bass.......


Me...Are you able to tell me the weight of this? Thank you...made in China?



seller.....The weight of the bass. Are you serious?? Why don't you phone Fender or Long & Mcqiade and ask that question so they can laugh in your face!



Me......Wow...what a charmer you are.....it is standard practice to list weights of basses these days for various reasons.....Common in bass player community......Thanks for your helpful and informative response. ...All the best...I'll keep my cash
 
Here's the description from another current auction from this seller. He even measured the action. He clearly could have answered the OP's questions:


Epiphone Dot Studio Archtop Semi-hollow Mahogany Top Tobacco Burst. Condition is Used but the guitar is immaculate.
From my personal collection, this guitar looks, sounds, and plays beautifully. It is flawless - mint. There are no scratches, nicks, or chips. It looks new. It is a 2009 model with classic Dot Studio features - black hardware, black uncovered pickups, and a clean finger board with no dot inlays. The action is low, buzz free, and fast. Measured from the top of the fret, action is 2 mil at fret 1, 3.5 mil at fret 12, and 4.5 mil at fret 15. The neck and bridge are easily adjustable to fit any style. This is a great guitar. The appearance is striking and flawless. This is a guitar you will be proud to play and to show off.
I will put it in a used hard epi case made for Epiphone 335's also have this on local craigslist so may be a chance I wont have this apon purchase.
 
On TB, Reverb, eBay, etc, sellers are selling one and only one item for the most part. If a buyer gives you bad vibes you can pass on dealing with them and sell to the next person. It's not like Guitar Center where they are trying to sell as many guitars / basses as possible. Individual sellers are selling one and they want to minimize their hassle with that sale.
 
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Bingo. I love the people here who jump to the conclusion that the seller "can't" answer the simpler questions. Nope, the seller just doesn't want to deal with you. Get over it.
Lmao if that’s the case then don’t sell. Selling things means dealing with people. Can’t deal with people ? Then don’t sell poopie. It’s not rocket science.