New 0xEAE Bass Driver

[MrDinsdale]

So had a quick play tonight. Its great, instantly got out of it what I wanted from a rusty box. The attack and bass controls are super intuitive.

I think Ill probably use it as a preamp with the Mother in front or possibly just use it as is with the Dagger or Halberd up front as a boost if I want to conserve space.

It's not as high gain as I was expecting, that being said the bass I'm using isn't crazy hot and it doesn't need much of a boost to get gnarly.

This is exactly what I was after though so I'm pretty stoked

 

[WG Plum]

Awesome! Well previously the Fuzz had the strips, I cut strips of dual lock the full length and it stayed on perfectly. I'll probably do the same again!

So you attached the dual lock to the rubber strips?

 

[MrDinsdale]

So you attached the dual lock to the rubber strips?

Yeah, I got the 0xEAE fuzz 2nd hand with the strips already attached so it was the most logical thing at the time but worked really well.

 

[kazuhank]

I use the Temple Audio mounts and haven't found a way to use them with the 0xEAE pedals. I used zip ties on the Boost and Fuzz, but would rather. have them locked down like my other pedals.

 

[WG Plum]

Gotta admit, it's not the best pedal design I’ve run across, but if that’s the biggest issue I have this week it’s a very good week.

 

[sunbeast]

Cool to see a different take on the Rusty Box/ Traynor sounds- I wonder if they just replaced the passive tonestack pots (excepting the "Attack" which he says in the vid is essentially the TS Treble control) of the original with fixed resistors or something different? I'm curious how much range there is in the low gain settings? My favorite Rusty settings were always right on the edge of clean

 

[WG Plum]

Haven’t tried mine yet, my main hope is for a similar sound but a much reduced noise floor.

 

[sunbeast]

Haven't tried mine yet, my main hope is for a similar sound but a much reduced noise floor.

Hmm I never had significant noise issues with my Rusty. The tonestack definitely favored highs and so any existing high-freq noise would be amplified, but I didn’t find the pedal itself to be notably noisy. I only had one of the original versions with the higher voltage power supply though, perhaps the charge-pump in the 9V Rusty added some noise?

 

[MrDinsdale]

I sold a rusty box to my mate for his studio, it was the OG high voltage version. I'll have to borrow it to compare. I bought it as the newer low-voltage version which I needed for my board.

From what I remember they're obviously pretty similar, although I think I prefer how the bass driver stacks with other pedals (the ones I have at least). I'd have to have them side by side though.

 

[sunbeast]

I sold a rusty box to my mate for his studio, it was the OG high voltage version. I'll have to borrow it to compare. I bought it as the newer low-voltage version which I needed for my board.

From what I remember they're obviously pretty similar, although I think I prefer how the bass driver stacks with other pedals (the ones I have at least). I'd have to have them side by side though.

One thing to remember with the Rusty is that the EQ is a passive Fender tonestack, so getting a more neutral tone requires some pretty extreme EQ settings (dropping Bass/Treble most of the way off, boosting Mid all the way). Of course doing that also eliminates some of the distinct character of the circuit too, as well as changing the gain-structure of the clipping (the EQ coming before the clipping circuit). A lot of the "Rusty sound" is I suspect related to the specific EQ curve that happens from people setting all the EQ around the center-point (which isn't flat on a Fender EQ, usually making a pretty wide but soft mid scoop and treble/high-mid boost) That's why I'm curious about what the Bass Driver does with the Bass/Mid from the amp/Rusty that are missing from their version (replacing the Bass with an active bass boost is a compelling idea for sure, though I almost always liked the tight bass response of the Rusty).

 

[MrDinsdale]

One thing to remember with the Rusty is that the EQ is a passive Fender tonestack, so getting a more neutral tone requires some pretty extreme EQ settings (dropping Bass/Treble most of the way off, boosting Mid all the way). Of course doing that also eliminates some of the distinct character of the circuit too, as well as changing the gain-structure of the clipping (the EQ coming before the clipping circuit). A lot of the "Rusty sound" is I suspect related to the specific EQ curve that happens from people setting all the EQ around the center-point (which isn't flat on a Fender EQ, usually making a pretty wide but soft mid scoop and treble/high-mid boost) That's why I'm curious about what the Bass Driver does with the Bass/Mid from the amp/Rusty that are missing from their version (replacing the Bass with an active bass boost is a compelling idea for sure, though I almost always liked the tight bass response of the Rusty).

Yeah, similar to the Model FeT, took a while to get used to! With the RB I really didn't experiment much with the EQ, it felt right out of the box mostly.

I think (as with all EAE stuff) the controls are really well considered and complement each other wonderfully. I found that bringing the bass up when attack was at 50% or above helped just give it a little more weight. Hopefully will get more time tonight to dig in with a bass I'm more familiar with, I only just got the Yamaha 1024x so still getting used to it.

 

[MrDinsdale]

Still needs dual locking down but very happy with this board. Still have aspirations to slim it down for a more compact board once I know what I need for an upcoming project but for now there's a lot of fun on here.

 

[Snake101st]

Has anyone compared it with a fulltone bass driver? Curious how similar it is, especially in MOSFET mode

 

[kazuhank]

Has anyone compared it with a fulltone bass driver? Curious how similar it is, especially in MOSFET mode

Well the Fulltone is a TS-9 based circuit tweaked for bass and the Bass Driver is a Traynor TS50B circuit. So they are completely different, but are both ways to add dirt to your bass signal. In COMP CUT, the Fulltone is most like a preamp, but it isn't voiced the same way, so they are not going to have a lot of similarities.

 

[AObando2002]

Call me doubly stoked- I just snagged a Mother preamp pedal as well. As a bass player who also plays guitar through the same rig, this seems to be a versatile setup for sure. I'm so stoked

Oh I’m a sucker for anything EAE. You’re gonna love them! I use two separate rigs: I’m gonna pick go another Mother just for the bass board. Have you tried the Halberd?

 

[AObando2002]

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Still needs dual locking down but very happy with this board. Still have aspirations to slim it down for a more compact board once I know what I need for an upcoming project but for now there's a lot of fun on here.

How did you tie it down? I just added a thin piece of finished trim wood, applied to back using double sided tape. (will not leave residue) Then I applied velcro to exposed wood and attached to board. Not the most pedalboard friendly format.

Note: TEMU Tone Hammer is in place while I wait for the V2 to arrive in May.

 

[Snake101st]

Well the Fulltone is a TS-9 based circuit tweaked for bass and the Bass Driver is a Traynor TS50B circuit. So they are completely different, but are both ways to add dirt to your bass signal. In COMP CUT, the Fulltone is most like a preamp, but it isn't voiced the same way, so they are not going to have a lot of similarities.

Oh nice, for some reason I thought the Fulltone was voiced like the Traynor as well - thanks for clearing that up!

 

[cataract]

Oh I’m a sucker for anything EAE. You’re gonna love them! I use two separate rigs: I’m gonna pick go another Mother just for the bass board. Have you tried the Halberd?

Sick. I’ve owned two v2 Halberds back around when they first dropped, it’s a great circuit. Been mulling over snagging another one now that I have a regular six string guitar on hand. But I’m also eyeing the Citadel lol. EAE can do no wrong IMO

 

[MrDinsdale]

Oooo I need to give the Halberd a go with the 0xEAE BD, I instinctively reach for the Dagger every time just because it sounds great in isolation. I think the Halberd makes for an amazing boost, I bet itd work really nice with the Bass Driver.

 

[TwototheValley]

Quirky form factor, but after some noodling I’d say it’s my preferred iteration of the Traynor TS50B circuit. Mainly on account of the very wide gain range. I actually prefer it for the low gain edge-of-breakup metallic sound.

I’ve got mine mounted sideways to avoid overhang…it’s ok despite the angle if you leave enough space to the side. My main concern however is the risk of bumping those sliders while doing pedal-board tap-dancing. Just a slight nudge has the capacity to effect a big change. If the controls were recessed somewhat it might go some way towards preventing that. I guess if I’m not going to be fiddling with the settings much I can just cover them with electrical tape.