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New 3leaf Pedal???

#66
scotch said:
I feel like it should be noted that the Band Pass mode on the Mu-Tron's are pretty thin! There's no blend function, so it really becomes a low-output signal.
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Hmm... That wasn't my experience. I left mine in BP mode more than LP or HP, and never had any problem with the sound being thin or low-output. Maybe it's the specific pedal (gone out of spec from age/humidity/smoke/etc.) or the user's playing style?
 
#67
bongomania said:
Hmm... That wasn't my experience. I left mine in BP mode more than LP or HP, and never had any problem with the sound being thin or low-output. Maybe it's the specific pedal (gone out of spec from age/humidity/smoke/etc.) or the user's playing style?
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Double Hmmm! ;)

Isn't that the inherent nature of any BP filter? You end up with seriously focused eq centers, resulting in a really difficult tone to employ & still maintain consistent 'bottom' in a band context.

Now, if you're just looking to riff through a solo section or breakdown, it can be pretty cool- but if you want any chance of still driving the band- you need low pass engaged!

Definitely, I'm coming at this from a more "traditional" bassist-as-rhythm-section perspective. But, I'd venture it's fair to say, that perspective represents the vast majority of gigging bass players.
 
#68
Subscribed and very interested! :smug: Thanks to Spencer for responding to demand!

Spencer! said:
Question for y'all: would you rather have an internal LP/BP/HP switch, or an external switch that only toggles between lowpass and bandpass?
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and external LP/BP would be my preference as well.

I like "Funk Regulator" in step with your other groove regulator name.
 
#72
scotch said:
Isn't that the inherent nature of any BP filter? You end up with seriously focused eq centers, resulting in a really difficult tone to employ & still maintain consistent 'bottom' in a band context.
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Ah, so "playing style" it is. :D Yes, a BP is more difficult to play well, because you have to work extra hard to play the filter as opposed to just playing your bass through the filter. If you play the filter, and adjust your timing to lead the beat so the swell peaks on the beat, then it is a fat and solid sound that works great in a band mix. A lot of Bootsy's filter action is BP, but of course that's blended with separate channels of LP, HP, AP, PP, doo-doo, and so on.

And there is also a big difference between a bass line that holds a repeating pattern along with the drums, versus a bass line that rides somewhere between rhythm and melody, with lots of space between notes. It's like the difference between Bootsy supporting the JB's versus Bootsy in Parliament or with his own band. LP works best when playing a supportive rhythm role, BP is more for when you can stretch out, both rhythmically and melodically--and I don't mean during a random solo. :)
 
#73
bongomania said:
Ah, so "playing style" it is. :D Yes, a BP is more difficult to play well, because you have to work extra hard to play the filter as opposed to just playing your bass through the filter. If you play the filter, and adjust your timing to lead the beat so the swell peaks on the beat, then it is a fat and solid sound that works great in a band mix. A lot of Bootsy's filter action is BP, but of course that's blended with separate channels of LP, HP, AP, PP, doo-doo, and so on.

And there is also a big difference between a bass line that holds a repeating pattern along with the drums, versus a bass line that rides somewhere between rhythm and melody, with lots of space between notes. It's like the difference between Bootsy supporting the JB's versus Bootsy in Parliament or with his own band. LP works best when playing a supportive rhythm role, BP is more for when you can stretch out, both rhythmically and melodically--and I don't mean during a random solo. :)
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Agreed. Agreed! :p

The whole "blending" aspect of BP is key, I think. Even with Bootsy's approach , you often have a 2nd bassist holding the bottom- or some other instrument. There's a way to do it, but I've yet to see it pulled off effectively live where you don't find yourself distractedly going: "Oh, the bass player's mom must be in the audience tonight!" ;)
 
#75
I think it might have been due to what kind of tone you have going.

If you re running a deep bassy tone through BP you're likely to experience a noticable droop in volume (at a given gain/volume setting), but if you're running an already midrangey tone through it, the volume drop will be a lot less or not at all (at the same gain/volume setting).

bongomania said:
Hmm... That wasn't my experience. I left mine in BP mode more than LP or HP, and never had any problem with the sound being thin or low-output. Maybe it's the specific pedal (gone out of spec from age/humidity/smoke/etc.) or the user's playing style?
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THIS IS WHY A VOLUME CONTROL IS ESSENTIAL ON ANY EFFECT THAT DRASTICALLY ALTERS FREQUENCY RESPONSE!

DAMNIT!!! :mad:


Phew, I feel better now... :)
 
#78
Jared Lash said:
It fits alongside "Groove Regulator" and adds a nice "Back to the Future" reference (perfect for a redesign of a vintage filter) so I say you call it:


The Funk Capacitor.
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My favorite so far! Too many pedals, and filters in multi-effects, have "Tron" in their names. Just like Groove Regulator, Funk Capacitor is unique, memorable, and fits the pedal.
 
#79
As much as I'd love having another pedal with TRON(<3) in it's name on my pedalboard, Groove Regulator was really unique and should be followed by a pedal that also has a unique title.

Funk Capacitor is an interesting name and seems to fit alongside Groove Regulator well. The Groove Regulator and it's little brother the Funk Capacitor.
 

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