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New Acoustic 360 Demo

#41
DiabolusInMusic said:
That isn't confusing at all... their products also look similar style wise, only another hardcore bass nerd will be able to tell the difference.

Why would you sell a product so it can be destroyed, only to end up re-using the name yourself... doesn't seem to make good business sense to me.

To each their own.

On the plus side, Acoustic USA does deal outside of the US, specifically Canada.

I also read this on the Canadian website, the head will not be $4,000, it will actually be pretty reasonable for a big ole tube head.

"MSRP: Acoustic 360 Head: $1,999.99"
"Acoustic 361 Power Cabinet: $2,999.99"
"Acoustic 361 Mini Powered Cabinet: $2,899.99 "
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The Acoustic company who sells at Guitar Center owns the name, Acoustic USA is an entirely separate company who probably pays a licensing fee to be able to use the name for their product. There's no "re-using" the name.

And, as far as I know, the acoustic 360/361 is solid state, not tube. And the 360 is just the preamp for the 361, which has the poweramp in the cab itself.
 
#43
DiabolusInMusic said:
I also read this on the Canadian website, the head will not be $4,000, it will actually be pretty reasonable for a big ole tube head.

"MSRP: Acoustic 360 Head: $1,999.99"
"Acoustic 361 Power Cabinet: $2,999.99"
"Acoustic 361 Mini Powered Cabinet: $2,899.99 "
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In case anyone's keeping score, that's still about $4k street for the rig.
 
#44
Oh snap I missed the pre-amp part of that... well then I go back to thinking they want too much money. I just assumed it was tubes for the money they want.

Look at their logos shake, they are identical except for one has a blue circle around it. They appear to re-use the name I would assume they sold off in the 80's. Regardless, somebody else does own the brand today to make bargain bin gear, and they chose to take up that old name once again, paying a license fee to the current owner.

I just don't see why that would make good business sense over starting a new brand based off your own credentials, it makes it very hard to be unique. I had no idea there was a separate company for high end gear until today. I would think most bass players think GC when they see that acoustic logo now. They ran a lot of ads with the guy who plays bass for ryan adams.

If I saw a new amp company that was "started by the the creator of the Acoustic 360/1" he could call the company "amps that suck" I would still be very interested to play one.
 
#48
Calebmundy said:
In case anyone's keeping score, that's still about $4k street for the rig.
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Umm....$1,999 (or $2,000 with taxes) - $2,999 (or $3,000 with taxes) is $5,000.

Granted, street might be a little less, but I doubt it.

They have a hefty price tag. But so does Ritter, Ampeg Heritage gear, Wal, EBS, Sadowsky - on and on......

They (in my opinion) are NOT entry level gear. They are for those who (1) can afford them and (2) Old men like me! :p and (3) Rock stars.....wait they HAD a rock star endorsee but he fled.....I would still like to know why he ran from the company?? Were his units defective? not the tone he wanted? What??
 
#49
I have spoken with Geoprger Grexa off-and-on for years. He is highly passionatye about his product and eagerly gives credit to his staff; mostly of former, original Acoustic Control folks.

He gave me opportunity after opportunity to put down a deposit toward eventual release of his product. Even though I am no rock star I would have bought one had "Life 101" stumbled me year, after year.



I haven't seen or heard his New Acoustic; seems to be an "improved-updated"version; not an exact repluica. For instance; no built-in fuzz, althjough uit has buiolt-in distiortion. Headphone jack on pre-amp.

I never understood the powered cabinet theory, but even back in the day, Kustom did it; many contemporary PA cabs are powered.
 
#50
..danged keystroke= send.. didn't get to edit spelling, nor finish..

Anyhow, George told me that when adjusted for inflation, his new Acoustic costs same as original equipment did in 1968 or so.

Marketing?? I agree: Only rock stars and those with "disposable income" can afford it. Grexa also offers "local legend" discount. I was hoping for that, but I can't buy a gig in Atlanta; I was never famous locally. No one remembers me; like staring all over "paying dues". I would have vehemently persued John Paul Jones as a primary endorser. I would rather have a $4,000 amp than a $20,000 motiorcyle; to each their own.

If his new stuff is like my 1974 370, it's built to last and be trouble and maintenance -free. He has an agreement with GC who owns the name ACOUSTIC. No real comparison other than logos and color scheme. I own a GC Acoustic too. I love both and I will proudly wear the tee-shirt next time I scrape up $$ for a tee.
Frankly since my 370 is as good as new, all I really need is a 301.

I only wish George Grexa, AKA "vetchking" the best. He has always been straightforward and frank with me. I don't fault him for being proud of his own product
 
#51
zon6c-f said:
..danged keystroke= send.. didn't get to edit spelling, nor finish..

Anyhow, George told me that when adjusted for inflation, his new Acoustic costs same as original equipment did in 1968 or so.
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Yes, and while I agree, most of the young 'ins here have no clue that in 1968 there were next to no choices when it came to bass amplification. Today, there are literally dozens of choices for bass amps - and in actuality, there isn't that much difference between "builder A" and "builder B". Most any amp today will get you through gigs. So the idea of dropping $5,000 for a bass amp is a little daunting for "most" younger players. ;)

Marketing?? I agree: Only rock stars and those with "disposable income" can afford it. Grexa also offers "local legend" discount. I was hoping for that, but I can't buy a gig in Atlanta; I was never famous locally. No one remembers me; like staring all over "paying dues". I would have vehemently persued John Paul Jones as a primary endorser. I would rather have a $4,000 amp than a $20,000 motiorcyle; to each their own.
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I, too, have spoken with George several times over the past few years and was offered an endorsement deal (actually pretty damn good) but turned him down because I actually NEEDED the amp THEN and not 3 or 4 years LATER. :D

But I do recall George stating that he figured that the vast majority of the amps would "probably be going to 50 year old ex-rockers who wanted to relive the past". Nothing wrong with that, but it does limit your market greatly....;)

And, again, I agree that I would camp out ANYWHERE JPJ was appearing until I could speak with him or his "people" about playing one of the new amps ;)

If his new stuff is like my 1974 370, it's built to last and be trouble and maintenance -free. He has an agreement with GC who owns the name ACOUSTIC. No real comparison other than logos and color scheme. I own a GC Acoustic too. I love both and I will proudly wear the tee-shirt next time I scrape up $$ for a tee.
Frankly since my 370 is as good as new, all I really need is a 301.

I only wish George Grexa, AKA "vetchking" the best. He has always been straightforward and frank with me. I don't fault him for being proud of his own product
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+1

I have a 40 year old 370 that I wouldn't sell for anything...well maybe a boat load of cash ;)

I absolutely LOVE my 370! Great amp!!!
 
#52
JimmyM said:
Boy, that'll be tough. The backline rental business is so dominated by Ampeg, GK, Hartke, SWR and Eden that it's really tough to get anything else, especially in midline cities.
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At SIR here in Hollywood they USED to have only ONE 360 and probably a dozen SVT stacks. I asked about it once and they didn't even know if it still worked or not...
 
#54
lfh said:
+1

In all fairness though, this obviously was a quick magazine interview and not a "company official" demo video.

That said, I'd also like more companies producing high quality demos, such as e.g. the one SWR have done where Marcus Miller walks through the controls of his signature preamp.
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I haven't seen the demo but I sure hope that any company wanting to sell me their amp uses someone other than Marcus. That is the polar opposite of any sound I want out of my amp. Willie Weeks would be a better choice for me. Jerry Jemmott would be my first choice.
 
#57
Maybe they could lend one to the Bass Whisperer for a gear review...

5port said:
A little OT:

If it were my company and I were trying to demo a new amp I would have a David Pastorious but I would also have someone who would demo it as 90% of us would use it. I really cant get a good idea of what it sounds like with the bassist playing "bass tricks".

I would love to have a new 360/361 but I cant get myself to part with $5K (5K/18" 4K/15") at this point in my life. I wish the new Acoustic company the best.
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#59
MRDOOM said:
Thought you might want to see this. The guy playing is a bit of a wanker but it is indeed a demo of the new Acoustic 360.

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First of all, get Tubby in the white t-shirt OUT of the video! Secondly, get the guy playing to actually play something that an average player would play. DITCH that pop-snap BULL***T !!! His playing showed NOTHING of what the amp is capable of !!! That was a piss-poor demo.:ninja:
 

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