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Double Bass New Adjustable Angled Endpin (like Laborie, Rabbath, Eggpin, etc.)

#41
the_Ryan said:
The reasoning I've heard is that a lot of luthiers and shops are worried about the end block failing, but in my mind having a straight endpin with the tailgut attached to it would put more strain on the block than a Laborie endpin would. I may be completely wrong, but those are just my musings.
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Who knows? I had a buddy who cracked his bass after he bumped his bass into a plastic garbage can.

Eight years ago my bass got knocked over on its face because someone's pant leg got caught on the endpin. Made a terrrrrible noise and somehow there was no damage other than a little ding on the bridge.

The drilled Laborie endpin has some upsides, but its great to have options too. Everybody's different. My endpin won't be appropriate for everybody, but it really works well for some people so I'm glad to have it out there.
 
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emilio g said:
Who knows? I had a buddy who cracked his bass after he bumped his bass into a plastic garbage can.

Eight years ago my bass got knocked over on its face because someone's pant leg got caught on the endpin. Made a terrrrrible noise and somehow there was no damage other than a little ding on the bridge.

The drilled Laborie endpin has some upsides, but its great to have options too. Everybody's different. My endpin won't be appropriate for everybody, but it really works well for some people so I'm glad to have it out there.
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Indeed, plus there seems to be no real consensus on how to hold the bass with a bent endpin, which makes something like your device or the Lammax valuable because everyone prefers something different (though what tends to work for most people/basses is 45° back 10° to the G string side); Rabbath, Lynn Seaton, and Paul Ellison all have their endpins at different angles/heights based on the way they play and the shape of their basses and their body shape, etc.
 
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the_Ryan said:
Indeed, plus there seems to be no real consensus on how to hold the bass with a bent endpin, which makes something like your device or the Lammax valuable because everyone prefers something different (though what tends to work for most people/basses is 45° back 10° to the G string side); Rabbath, Lynn Seaton, and Paul Ellison all have their endpins at different angles/heights based on the way they play and the shape of their basses and their body shape, etc.
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Totally. I'm working on a video for the website with a few example setups for people to try.
 
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mjt0229 said:
Well, it's been a while since I've asked Hammond-Ashley to do anything. Last time I wanted them to do some set up work on my bass they said they were too busy, but that was a long time ago. I've had some other annoying experiences with there so I guess I just don't think of them. It might not hurt to give them a call, I guess.
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What about Sarah Balmforth? Have you asked her if she'd do it?
 
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I just saw today that this thread is still alive, so I thought I'd give a quick update on my journey.

I had my luthier install an angled carbon fiber endpin last fall, and I love it. He drilled the hole at the perfect angle. The pin is not adjustable, so you need to cut it to length a little at a time; too short & you get to start with a new pin. The area where he drilled is quite beefy (thick wood), so I'm really not concerned about it affecting the stability of the instrument.

I'm a tall guy (6' 3"), so I started with the full-length, un-cut pin. Turns out it is the perfect height for me with no adjustments. So, if you're taller than me, you might want to think carefully before buying the pin; I guess I lucked out.

It's really no exaggeration for me to say that the angled endpin immediately made me a better player; and I think that the speed of my progress immediately increased as well; especially in thumb position. Balance of the bass is improved, and the fingerboard is in a much more user-friendly position. Every now and then, usually when I get carried away and into the groove, I let the rubber ball get a little too far in front and have to adjust; but that's my problem, not the endpin.

I guess I see the attractiveness of an adjustable pin if you're still trying to figure out if you like it, but in the long run, I think I'm much better off with a fixed pin.
 
#52
Mark Gunderson said:
I would like to acquire one of these. Can you help me? Thanks!
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Hi Mark, this thread is a few years old, and the link that Emilio put up leads to what appears to be a Chinese website. There are other options though. @robobass has his Robopin
https://basscapos.com/robpin.html

which is a better solution in my opinion, and there is John Hay’s BeginPin Plus,
BeginPin Plus – John Hay Enterprises LLC

Hope that helps. Apologies to Emilio if this pin is still available, if it is, I can’t find it.

there’s also the lammax system, but I’m not sure if that’s available anymore either.

Endpin Angled Lammax System


If you are near Connecticut this may also be an option for you:
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Those are all the options I’m aware of on the market currently. There are other luthiers that have similar options to the Upton solution, I wanna say KC Strings, maybe…I’m not sure. Hope this helps.
 
#53
BassFalcon has touched almost all of the bases, but left one out.
https://www.ergonpin.com/
I am the inventor of the RobPin. I think that the Laborie system is elegant and structurally sound, but once you drill into your bottom block the angle is for keeps. All others excluding mine put an intense side force on the socket and bottom block. My design has a pad which sits behind the endpin socket and eliminates this side force. Anyway, the RobPin has been quite successful. I like some of the other designs, but just think that mine is the best:)
 
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robobass said:
BassFalcon has touched almost all of the bases, but left one out.
https://www.ergonpin.com/
I am the inventor of the RobPin. I think that the Laborie system is elegant and structurally sound, but once you drill into your bottom block the angle is for keeps. All others excluding mine put an intense side force on the socket and bottom block. My design has a pad which sits behind the endpin socket and eliminates this side force. Anyway, the RobPin has been quite successful. I like some of the other designs, but just think that mine is the best:)
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looked at the ergonpin, but can't see how it is secured from spinning?
 

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