Finally was able to acquire a 2nd Aguilar SL110 cabinet. The chocolate brown which would match my other SL110 has been discontinued, so I went with the fawn. The chocolate and fawn actually look pretty awesome together. Running 2 of these cabinets together through my Genzler Kinetix 800 power head ran chills down my spine. These little cabinets have definition that would embarrass a good percentage of bass cabinets out there at any price, including some of Aguilars other offerings. The Kinetix is an 800 watt power head at 4 ohms with a tube preamp section running three 12 AX7 at 300 volts. I didn't baby the little Aguilars with the Kinetix one bit and they held together beautifully. Using my Fender Pro 2 precision with standard Fender round wound strings there were times I could swear a Stienway grand piano was right there in my living room, absolutely glorious and at a volume level that nearly caused my ear drums to bleed in the large living area. I'm still amazed at how much bottom end authority these little speakers have, and now with the additional SL110 it's even more substantiated. I'm not sure how well 2 of these would do in a live outdoor setting but with PA support it doesn't really matter. If you wanted to, you could even give 3 cabinets a try if your amp goes down to 2.67 ohms, I bet that would be a thunderous little set up. For recording purposes these would be hard to surpass and no tweeter to mess with. If you're on the fence about these little cabinets I'd give them a try before Aguilar decides to discontinue them altogether, perhaps because of not enough profit in it for them. They lowered the price from $700 to $630 likely because of competition and lack of sales, the chocolate has already been discontinued. Sweetwater doesn't even stock them any longer, you have to special order them. Just saying.
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New Aguilar SL110 cabs.
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I was a little disappointed by the lack of a tweeter on my SL110. Currently looking to get a Genzler BA-10-2 to pair with it in order to get some higher frequencies back in the mix
I've never been disappointed with the lack of tweeter in the SL110. I had a tweeter on my Mesa Subway 115 and was always fiddling with it, nice to be free of that. Right now I have a pair of Genzler BA-10-2 and a pair of the Aguilar SL110. They actually sound pretty good mixed together one speaker each. I'm even thinking of running both pair together with the arrays sitting on top of the SL110, one pair set next to the other pair. The problem is that is a 2 ohm load and my Genzler MG350 and Kinetix each have a 2.67 ohm limit. I'm thinking of selling the Kinetix and using the funds to pick up a Mesa 800 + which can go down to 2 ohms. 200 watts going to each speaker would be well within safe limits of these speakers and I bet it would sound monstrous. It would have been much easier and less expensive to have just started with a 4X10 cabinet but I don't think that would have sounded as good as 4 separate cabinets and would not be nearly as versatile.
My main issue is that I have both a Modulus Flea Bass and a newer Stingray with the 3 band EQ, and when playing through the SL110 the highs are so muted that the treble knobs on those basses effectively do nothing. Makes it hard to nail that Flea slap tone
I have 2 Stingray Specials, a 4H and 4HH. The treble knob is definitely effective and doing what's it's supposed to do, but then again I don't do slap. Maybe it's your amp, room and or cables that are the real issue. What amp are you using? Maybe you need a Hartke or GK cabinet which really tend to overexaggerate the high end. To me they sound harsh and hurt my ears but if something else in your system is draining your highs maybe that's what you need. The top end on the SL110 and Genzler Arrays are as smooth as butter, sounds like that's not what you are after. Also, you need to stand back at least 10 feet from your cabinet to hear what it really sounds like, that begins to gives enough space for the sound waves to fully develope. One option you may also want to try and in my opinion your very best bet is to buy an Aguilar SL112 and put the SL110 on top of it. The SL112 has an adjustable tweeter and Aguilar themselves refer to this two speaker set up as the "Slap Stack", right up your alley.
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Yeah I just want to keep things small and compact. I’m not sure I would believe that the treble response of a Genzler with a line array would be the same as the Aguilar with a single 10” speaker, but I plan to head to a shop that carries them soon to see for myself. But my setup is Bass > ToneHammer 500 Amp > SL110. Nothing crazy that would unexpectedly dampen high end aside from the obvious, the lack of a tweeter in the Aguilar cab.
Yeah, that's always your best option, find a shop that carries what you're looking at and try it out with your own amp, bass and cabinet to make sure it's the sound you're after. The Tone Hammer amps are little on the slow warm wooly side, I have a TH-350. You may prefer their AG series for slap, a little quicker and a more crystalline top end, or some other brand altogether, I really like the Genzler and Mesa's. Let us know.
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This is simply not true... otherwise headphones and IEM's wouldn't work. The "sound waves" are fully developed from the moment they leave the speaker.
When you move away, you change the angle that you hear from the speaker (moving from off axis to more on axis) as well as adding in more reflections from the walls, floor and ceiling of the room.
Thanks agedhorse. I notice my speakers sound very harsh when I am directly in front of them almost distorted, as I move back they smoothen out and all of the harshness is gone and they sound great. I always heard bass sound waves are larger and need some space to make a full wave. I've never appraised a cab being directly in front of it and have always stood back before evaluating. You're the pro, so I'll ask. Is it normal to hear harshness or distortion when your right in front of a bass cabinet? I've had tons of of bass cabs even your SW 115 same story. What's causing this?
Agedhorse, also when people record a bass cab they always seem to stick microphones right in front of the speaker cab. Wouldn't they get a more accurate presentation of the cabinet moving the microphone much further back into the room? Thanks
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What you are hearing is the near field on axis response that may in fact be more harsh. As you move back, you begin entering the far field region which includes room reflections which ted to smooth out high frequencies but can also add new irregularities throughout.
As a point of contemplation, while the wavelength of low frequencies is longer, if a bass sound wave needed the space to make a "full wave", how would it be possible for headphones to reproduce bass? (the answer is somewhat complicated because there are a couple of different mechanisms going on).
The most accurate representation of the cabinet would be near field, or close to the speaker, and again there is no problem reproducing bass without any distance. When the mic is moved farther away, you get a more accurate representation of the sound of the cabinet in the room, not of the cabinet itself. Change the room and the sound will change even though the cabinet does not.
So, I’m in the middle of moving so my Mesa Subway stack is still being shipped from my old house.
I ordered this little stack for fun while I wait.
Bad thing is I ordered the new Aguilar speaker and instrument cables with it. They don’t come until Monday!!!
Not sure why they shipped separately, but all I can do is look at.
-ScottM
I have an sl112 also which works pretty darn good with the 110, but I’ve put them back in their boxes with plans to move them on as I happen to get a DB115 before they started overseas production although it’s heavy I use it only at home and it just kicks butt with the old school tone,they have something the lightweight cabs don’t seem to have,of course I’m gonna be 63 soon and that’s the sound I grew up with, nothing wrong with the SLs I just prefer the good old DBs when you really get down to it.
I have a Mesa Subway stack with their new head they just came out with and a Markbass combo setup too. This little stack will be for very low volume use, hence why the 500 wat head should be okay on it.
I think I’ve owned all of the older DB cabs and they were killer. Best sounding cabs I’ve ever owned, but crazy too heavy for me now at my age.
-ScottM
Hmm, I did not realize that these were made in overseas production.
I was wondering why they did not show pictures of the back of the cabs on their website anymore.
I had a hard time finding the AG500 watt head since it was sold out almost everywhere.
This one says USA made, I wonder if it is moving manufacturing locations as well?
-ScottM
Yes three-four months ago,Vietnam.There is a thread about it somewhere,sorry for getting off track.
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That set up will sound awesome. On a side note, I received a Aguilar free speaker cable with purchase and it is very difficult to engage the slide release button. If you don't have to mess with it very often its tolerable. Maybe yours will operate smoother but I doubt it, it is in the desgn. I much prefer my other Rattlesnake speaker and instrument cables.View attachment 7489923
So, I’m in the middle of moving so my Mesa Subway stack is still being shipped from my old house.
I ordered this little stack for fun while I wait.
Bad thing is I ordered the new Aguilar speaker and instrument cables with it. They don’t come until Monday!!!
Not sure why they shipped separately, but all I can do is look at.
-ScottM
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