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New Ernie Ball Tim Commerford Models

Great demo video and I thought the commentary he had was right on. Forget about Tim for a second and look at what the bass is offering you in terms of features.

I love my Classic (in Natural so that's my Paul S. Denman/Bernard Edwards sig lol) but I can see getting a lot of mileage out of a passive, short scale with the mute option. Really nice.
 
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I know I personally would much rather accommodate those of my fans who respects me for who I am now than those who only respects me for who I was, and that I'd much rather see a signature bass that actually gets used by the artist in question than one that is a copy of one that once, but not anymore, was used by the artist.

People finding this strange, which seems to be the majority of people posting in this thread, seems strange to me.
 
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Agreed on all counts. Plus, uh.... as much as this might be a cool line of stingrays. Doesn't a signature model kind of seem at odds with the public persona of a dude like Tim Commerford? This dude just doesn't strike me as a signature model kind of guy. I mean, he rides a bicycle to his concerts sometimes. who else (on his level) does that?

He says in the video that he refused it multiple times.

He's a pretty practical and down to earth guy, as far as I can see, from footage and interviews. Pretty modest, too.

I was expecting a bass that would replicate the original bass he played on the first album, so this bass was dissapointing in that regard.

But I also understand the point of making a bass to his actual preferences and one that he plays now. That's cool, too.

My Yamaha Peter Hook is also a fusion between Hook's original Yamaha and the modern BB he plays right now. He got some features from one, and another features from the other bass. It turned out a pretty cool bass.


This is more like that, than a Cliff Williams or Sting signature.


The video of him explaining it is great and it's always a chance to hear him play with Brad Wilk.

Tim and Brad, so tight!

 
I haven't read the whole thread, but I suspect that all these limited run, special edition basses are a pretty smart survival tactic for MusicMan. I have read in a couple places (including here) that MM production is still a bit limited due to the pandemic. These limited run orders let them both charge a premium for an already expensive production instrument, and to get a backlog of paid-for instruments in front of them.

I also suspect that is why the TC is available in non-traditional TC colors and as a short-scale. I just feel bad for Flea, because I thought part of the reason he left MM was that they wouldn't do a signature model for him.
 
Because they don’t need to.
The Stingray Special (aside from the Neo pickups) is a Stingray in Sterling clothing…

I hope they actually keep the Sterling in production, though. Last year they whittled them down to only 2 color options…
Same here! The Sterling 5 is next on my GAS list, but I'm holding out for more color options. :thumbsup:
 
I think this signature model is based not on the historic Stingray of his past, but of the one(s) he's currently using whereas the Cliff Williams signature bass is based on the same one he's been using his whole career. In other words, the Tim Commerford signature model includes many tweaks and upgrades from the original model he used to play, but is not actually a replica of that one.

Understood and agreed. Kinda illustrates why I don’t see it as a Tim Commerford “signature bass” at all but more of an entirely new model in the Ernie Ball catalog that no one has played previously until Tim started using recently. Really this is more of an “endorsed by Tim Commerford” model than anything.
 
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Interesting to see the responses here! Tim started using StingRays again at the same time he started using Barefaced cabs, so we've talked about them a lot. He's barely played a standard StingRay over these past five years, they may have looked stock but he had the 18V electronics before the Special came out, then he had the old school mute bridge on the Special, obviously he had his DIY ramp thumbrest he makes and fits. So yes, it's not the StingRay you heard on Rage's debut album (there's plenty of old ones out there if you want to buy one!) but these are the StingRays he wants now. Rather like how his rig now is very different to his rig back then!

Despite the appearance of the battery cover, the active ones are 18V, he just prefers the metal plate to the plastic battery box on the Specials. He loves the shortscales, he's been raving about them at me for the last 18 months - note that for years my main bass was a 36" scale, the acoustic I play the most (at home) is a 35" and my main electric now is a 34". He's been playing the shortscale with Wakrat (and now in the new group), and he was debating taking some shortscales on the now postponed RATM tour. I'd like to try one for sure. The finish choices are his own, he wanted some classic looks and variations on them. The "ramp" is a copy of the ones he fits - except their design guys worked out how to make it part of the pickguard and fully adjustable in height, which he was blown away with.

It's worth watching the whole video about them, it's only 10 minutes long - it's a very honest representation of what Tim wanted with these basses and how he feels about the end result (I've basically heard the same over the phone over the past year or two as the project has progressed). We're super pleased with the launch video because you can hear our contributions loud and clear!

Alex, wanted to extend a "congrat" for being feature in that video, great achievement for Barefaced!
 
He says in the video that he refused it multiple times.

He's a pretty practical and down to earth guy, as far as I can see, from footage and interviews. Pretty modest, too.

I was expecting a bass that would replicate the original bass he played on the first album, so this bass was dissapointing in that regard.

But I also understand the point of making a bass to his actual preferences and one that he plays now. That's cool, too.

My Yamaha Peter Hook is also a fusion between Hook's original Yamaha and the modern BB he plays right now. He got some features from one, and another features from the other bass. It turned out a pretty cool bass.


This is more like that, than a Cliff Williams or Sting signature.


The video of him explaining it is great and it's always a chance to hear him play with Brad Wilk.

Tim and Brad, so tight!




His tour insurance just went way up.
 
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Because they don’t need to.
The Stingray Special (aside from the Neo pickups) is a Stingray in Sterling clothing…

I hope they actually keep the Sterling in production, though. Last year they whittled them down to only 2 color options…

The SR Special I played while sampling the WD-800 amp at the LGS reminded me of just about nothing of my EBMM Sterling. I think the only similarities was the fret board radius.
 
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It's just occurring to me, that this is pretty much the StingRay I would design :

A StingRay Special, with the classic MM logo, string mute bridge, and metal plate battery cover.

Furthermore, they've sensibly not roasted the maple neck for the natural finish model (short scale), so that the colours match.

Sure, I'd probably never use the ramp - but then again, I don't use the mutes that often, so it's probably a worthwhile option to have.

I can even get over the fact that it's a string through, where I prefer top-loading bridges, and the fact that the ramp means the battery compartment is in an odd place.

I'm starting to think they should make this the production model.
 
I haven’t the foggiest notion who Tim Commerford might be. Apparently he is a bassist, I take it, but I’ve never heard of him. Or Joe Dart.

Ernie Ball is busily milking the well-heeled collectors who buy living room queens that will never see a stage. A new base model StingRay’s street price is now $2300 USD, and frankly, it’s overpriced for what it is.

I will never again buy another new Music Man, at this rate.
 
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I just feel bad for Flea, because I thought part of the reason he left MM was that they wouldn't do a signature model for him.

Dont feel bad for Flea. He recorded 99% of his songs with other basses, and admitted in BP mag interview that he was not happy with a way a Ray records so he uses other basses.
What company would give a player a sig model after saying that? Because those basses are what we still hear on the radio everyday all these decades later.
 
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I was hoping for more from the Timmy C model TBH. It seems like it's just a SR Special with the classic bridge and a numbered neckplate (for the active ones). Some different pickup/preamp combo IMO would have been nice. Was hoping for the classic preamp w/ 18v and the neo pickup or an alnico pickup with the 18v special pre... meh

that’s all that they are….and a ramp.
Don’t see the added value in them to be honest, except from a collector’s point of view.
 
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