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#22
Without knowing any of the specifics, it doesn't seem like a great idea to put the port on the bottom, where it's either going to be blocked, or by way of some feet only have a small amount of air clearance. I would guess for that to work you'd have to work out how the floor and space given effect the port size, and go from there...:hmm:
 
#23
I don't understand the bias against strap handles.

I'm 60 years old with arthritis in both knees and my lower back. I put single side-mounted strap handles on both of my fEARful 12/6s (a tad under 40lbs. each) and have no problem carrying them like suitcases.
 
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wcriley said:
I don't understand the bias against strap handles.

I'm 60 years old with arthritis in both knees and my lower back. I put single side-mounted strap handles on both of my fEARful 12/6s (a tad under 40lbs. each) and have no problem carrying them like suitcases.
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The problem is with cabs in excess of 40 lbs. My Berg 1x12"(non neo) with the strap handle is okay for shorter distances only. Not sure of the weight, but it rides the line.
 
#26
BurningSkies said:
Without knowing any of the specifics, it doesn't seem like a great idea to put the port on the bottom, where it's either going to be blocked, or by way of some feet only have a small amount of air clearance. I would guess for that to work you'd have to work out how the floor and space given effect the port size, and go from there...:hmm:
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it might be a good idea for a 410 with casters on the bottom, then they'd get at least a couple good inches of air clearance. If they could make a design allowing for room for error it might work out. With a 210 it seems a bit of a crapshoot.

wcriley said:
I don't understand the bias against strap handles.

I'm 60 years old with arthritis in both knees and my lower back. I put single side-mounted strap handles on both of my fEARful 12/6s (a tad under 40lbs. each) and have no problem carrying them like suitcases.
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I had a 50 pound acoustic B-3 head, and it just had one strap handle on the side. It was okay for carrying short distances, but after about 10 minutes or so of walking it really digs into your hand. I'm 20 years old and in shape, but I don't miss the head partly for that reason. It's not that carrying something over 30 pounds with one hand is too difficult, it's that the strap isn't always the best handle to carry it with.
 
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wcriley said:
I don't understand the bias against strap handles.

I'm 60 years old with arthritis in both knees and my lower back. I put single side-mounted strap handles on both of my fEARful 12/6s (a tad under 40lbs. each) and have no problem carrying them like suitcases.
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Cool post. I'd rather it not have plastic handles, but to me that's a petty reason to dismiss a cabinet altogether.

That handle, be it plastic or built in, will be used at most 0.5 of the 168 hours in a week. The other 167.5 hours will be about its tone, so that's the basis I'll be using to make the decision.
 
#29
pie_man_25 said:
it might be a good idea for a 410 with casters on the bottom, then they'd get at least a couple good inches of air clearance. If they could make a design allowing for room for error it might work out. With a 210 it seems a bit of a crapshoot.



I had a 50 pound acoustic B-3 head, and it just had one strap handle on the side. It was okay for carrying short distances, but after about 10 minutes or so of walking it really digs into your hand. I'm 20 years old and in shape, but I don't miss the head partly for that reason. It's not that carrying something over 30 pounds with one hand is too difficult, it's that the strap isn't always the best handle to carry it with.
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My wife and I were having conversations along these lines.

Have you guys seen those wheeled boards piano movers use to move pianos? We were wondering if it would be a good idea for Fbass to offer an accessory that is custom fit for the cabinet to slip into to make it roll. Then when you want to give (and if you don't want it to stay on wheels), you can lift it off the caster caddy and there you go.
 
#30
Tom7 said:
My wife and I were having conversations along these lines.

Have you guys seen those wheeled boards piano movers use to move pianos? We were wondering if it would be a good idea for Fbass to offer an accessory that is custom fit for the cabinet to slip into to make it roll. Then when you want to give (and if you don't want it to stay on wheels), you can lift it off the caster caddy and there you go.
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And in doing so, you change the tuning of the cab,the length/cross-section of the port. That's what we're saying, and why he was suggesting specific casters for the cab. The minute you change the space between the port and the floor, you've altered the tuning of the cabinet...and done so randomly.
 
#31
Tom7 said:
My wife and I were having conversations along these lines.

Have you guys seen those wheeled boards piano movers use to move pianos? We were wondering if it would be a good idea for Fbass to offer an accessory that is custom fit for the cabinet to slip into to make it roll. Then when you want to give (and if you don't want it to stay on wheels), you can lift it off the caster caddy and there you go.
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More hassle than its worth if we are talking about a 210. Even with a bigger cab, I would rather buy something moderately priced, than an over priced "Signature" furniture dolly.
 
#32
CL400Peavey said:
Get off my lawn.

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I'm not sure I know what that meant, but it made me laugh.:)

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I have a Fodera Emperor 5 that weighs more than Shaquille O'Neal... with Mike Tyson on his shoulders. Seriously, this 5-string bass weighs more than each of my 5 6-string basses, but does that stop me from playing it? Not at ALL. Why? TONE! Oh my goodness it sounds great!

I figure if our women can put up with the pain of a night on the town in high heels for hours on end so they can look good for us, then I can deal with the 10 minute walk from the van to the stage with a 46 lb. cabinet.

Besides, it is still a lot lighter than my Accugroove El Whappo, which MF says weights 88 lbs.


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That said, I get that others don't feel like I do. If they can get tone they like from a cabinet that is light, then why lug around something heavier? That makes sense to me too.
 
#33
BurningSkies said:
And in doing so, you change the tuning of the cab,the length/cross-section of the port. That's what we're saying, and why he was suggesting specific casters for the cab. The minute you change the space between the port and the floor, you've altered the tuning of the cabinet...and done so randomly.
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Yes, which is why I said you could remove the caster accessory when you gig.
 
#35
Tom7 said:
Yes, which is why I said you could remove the caster accessory when you gig.
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If you remove cabinet mounted casters, the port is against the floor, or within an inch, which effectively changes the port size, and does so differently from where the port size and shape is if you leave the casters on. The point being, that if your port is on the bottom, the floor or stage is going to react with the port unpredictably, that lack of predictability will change the tone of the cab, and could also be harmful for the drivers.
 
#39
wcriley said:
Oops! For some reason I was thinking the F-Bass cab weighed 36 lbs, not 46lbs. :o

I agree that this cab is too heavy to carry with one strap handle.
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Don't you know that on the internet, you should stick to your opinion, even if it's changed? What the heck. I was hoping for a flame war about strap handles.
 
#40
Tom7 said:
I figure if our women can put up with the pain of a night on the town in high heels for hours on end so they can look good for us, then I can deal with the 10 minute walk from the van to the stage with a 46 lb. cabinet.
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I have to say +1 to this.^^

Yeah, lightweight is the in thing now. No, there's no point in making things heavy for no reason. But, at some point, it becomes just whining.
 

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