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New Ibanez Talman Basses!

Do you see them as equals?

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Different angle, sure. Though I will say the TMB angle is better if you're going to loop the cord around the strap button (which a lot of strat players do). FWIW. YMMV. Substantial penalties for early withdrawal. :D
 
I was taking "angle" to mean the angle of the jack protruding up from the face of the instrument -- the TMB and Strat jacks stick up at an angle like 45 degrees or something like that, rather than sticking up at a perpendicular ninety degrees, as on a regular Jazz or Precision bass.
Ok, yeah, some like that style, some don't.
 
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Different angle, sure. Though I will say the TMB angle is better if you're going to loop the cord around the strap button (which a lot of strat players do). FWIW. YMMV. Substantial penalties for early withdrawal. :D

If you are going to loop the cord the strat is better. You have more distance so you dont need to force the cable to go up.
With the Talman, because the jack is horizontal and so close to the strap button, you got to force it to go up inmediatelly....
probably making preassure...

Dont know why they put the jack that way, looks odd and uncomfortable imho...
 
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. . . it's pretty nuts what you get for the money. I mean passive tone and active treble knobs are combined if your instrument can switch between active/passive, they don't shy away from providing bone nuts (Fender does, they don't even have them on American Standards) . . . That Talman I think is a good bass overall. It's pretty competitive with the Sire in terms of features in my opinion. Swamp ash body, decent preamp (even if the Sire is better), Nordstrand pickups, passive/active tone/treble knob, similar price, neck BINDING!, etc. . . . Still, if I was after a Jazz bass I'd probably get the Sire. I prefer PJs so that's probably why I dig the Talman more. Sire should consider making some sort of P bass and I'd probably be sold.
You should start saving your money then because Sire has said that they ARE going to offer a P bass. Their parent company, Dame, sells a PJ that isn't available in the U.S. They will likely make a few changes - probably use the same preamp with the sweepable mids that is used in the current M series and V series - before they offer it here. I like PJs too, hence the Talman and the fretless LTD in my avatar, but I'm hoping Sire will also come out with a straight P model, too. When it happens, I would expect the pricing to be similar to the V7, so probably at least $175 less than the Talman 600.

The Sire also uses a bone nut, BTW, and their necks also have binding.

Although some people here seem to be impressed with it, I don't think the idea of using the active treble knob as the tone control when in passive mode is such a great idea at all. It's a cheaper way to get it done but not very practical. Think about it, if you switch from active to passive or vice versa, you may then, in addition, have to also readjust the knob - unless you just happen to like it set the same for both active and passive. And the Talman's active/passive switch is not anywhere near the tone control knobs, so if you have to switch and then adjust, it's a lot of movement. Sire's design works much better, IMO. It has a dedicated tone control knob just below the volume knob. And the switch is mounted right on the control panel. It's easy to reach yet not in the way when you're adjusting the mid or bass controls.
 
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Although some people here seem to be impressed with it, I don't think the idea of using the active treble knob as the tone control when in passive mode is such a great idea at all. It's a cheaper way to get it done but not very practical. Think about it, if you switch from active to passive or vice versa, you may then, in addition, have to also readjust the knob - unless you just happen to like it set the same for both active and passive. And the active/passive switch is not anywhere near the tone control knobs, so if you have to switch and then adjust, it's a lot of movement. Sire's design works much better, IMO. It has a dedicated tone control knob just below the volume knob. And the switch is mounted right on the control panel. It's easy to reach yet not in the way when you're adjusting the mid or bass controls.
I didn't think of that aspect, yeah, having to reset the knob when switching would be a major downside. I almost always have passive tone full open, and never run active with highs on full boost unless I'm just farting around exploring preamp boundaries, wouldn't normally play like that.
 
You should start saving your money then because Sire has said that they ARE going to offer a P bass. Their parent company, Dame, sells a PJ that isn't available in the U.S. They will likely make a few changes - probably use the same preamp with the sweepable mids that is used in the current M series and V series - before they offer it here. I like PJs too, hence the Talman and the fretless LTD in my avatar, but I'm hoping Sire will also come out with a straight P model, too. When it happens, I would expect the pricing to be similar to the V7, so probably at least $175 less than the Talman 600.

That's great news actually. When/where did they say that? Any other details? I'll probably hold out for one of those, if only to evaluate it. I would dig having a preamp like theirs in a P or a PJ.

The Sire also uses a bone nut, BTW, and their necks also have binding.

Yep. I was saying they are comparable. I've been scoping out the Sires lately since I'm wanting a workhorse active bass.


Although some people here seem to be impressed with it, I don't think the idea of using the active treble knob as the tone control when in passive mode is such a great idea at all. It's a cheaper way to get it done but not very practical. Think about it, if you switch from active to passive or vice versa, you may then, in addition, have to also readjust the knob - unless you just happen to like it set the same for both active and passive. And the Talman's active/passive switch is not anywhere near the tone control knobs, so if you have to switch and then adjust, it's a lot of movement. Sire's design works much better, IMO. It has a dedicated tone control knob just below the volume knob. And the switch is mounted right on the control panel. It's easy to reach yet not in the way when you're adjusting the mid or bass controls.

Yeah, I hear you. I guess it depends on how the treble pot works. I'm not sure how it does on that Ibanez. If at the center detente to 100% it doesn't do anything, and at center detente it's like having passive tone at 100% that might be cool. (You said you had a talman and presumably you are familiar with it, and it doesn't do that, so only way that's happening is if they changed it)

Anyway, I don't see myself switching between modes very often. I'd probably leave it active or passive for longer periods of time. I just like it because I don't like having too many knobs on my basses. It's nice when you can get two functions out of one knob. Push/pulls even count as far as I'm concerned.
 
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The TMB 30 arrived from sweetwater this afternoon.It's a deep red color like 1000 yr old dark tomato soup.Maybe in the neighborhood of seminole red.Light 7 lb 2 oz everything fits as it should.Finish is perfect. Neck is nice no fret or nut issues. it's,not too thin ,kinda chucky maybe .900 at the 1st fret i'll measure it when I put flats on it later if I had my jag here I could compare the two.probably thicker than the jag from what I remember.Came packed with 3 allen wrenches , a cord warranty card,instruction card and also a bag of candy compliments of sweetwater.Plugged it and and sound good thru a 30 w practice amp I keep here,although the roundwounds have to go! Seems hotter that vintage but not anywhere near a quarter pounder Nothing to complain about with the control they work as they should.I'll have a look inside when I change the strings later.Reminds me of my ss jag my so now has at his place.I like it!.Nice and ligh really resonant played un plugged.I have some used chromes i'll slap on it.So far nothing to complain about,not that you get a lot of room to complain for the price.
 
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