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New Kappalites

Mike Arnopol

Mike Arnopol

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#1
Just got word from Eminence as far as 3 new Kappalite 10's announced at Namm.

" You will be happy to know that we have just released three new 10" neo drivers in our Kappalite Series. It may be too late for your newest cabinet, but you may want to keep it in mind for future builds. We have a Kappalite 3010LF with 9mm of Xmax, the Kappalite 3010MB with 6mm of Xmax, and the Kappalite 3010HO with 4mm of Xmax. I don't know if any of those interest you or not, but it might be something to keep in the back of your mind for future stuff.

Looks very interesting!
 
#5
or the 110 if you like compact!

I would guess using the MB driver, a small combo would be hard to beat. Just taking a guess, I would suspect the HO to go at least to 5 kHz, the MB to around 3.5 kHz and the LF to 2.5 kHz. Based on previous models, expect a rising response from upper mid to HF. I would also guess around 94 dB/W LF, 97 dB/W MB and 99 dB/W HO.

Anyone have specs available yet?

Kappas tend to be higher power so I would suspect 300W to 400W range. That's one monster small combo... or a super monster fridge!
 
#9
JimInRadfordVA said:
I say, jump straight to the 410 and 810!
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jnewmark said:
Some 210 fEARfulls in the offing, Greenboy ? :D
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When the early protos of the 3010LF came to light earlier this year, there was a discussion on the fEARful message board (its still there if anyone would care to look). I think it was mostly decided that at best it was a dubious 'trade off' to do a 10" fEARful. I wouldn't look for a 'fEARful' branded 4x10 or 8x10 anytime soon, as the standard designs of these cabs are pretty antithetical to what a fEARful is design and tone wise and what it does. If you're talking about a vertically oriented 10" stack, you might as well consider some of the other designs.

I know there's been some work done into the fearLESS range of cabinets, centered around an 8" driver, but the mysterious Greenboy has been keeping his plans to himself after all the rough-handling of his work here and by other builders.
 
#10
Mike Arnopol said:
We have a Kappalite 3010LF with 9mm of Xmax, the Kappalite 3010MB with 6mm of Xmax, and the Kappalite 3010HO with 4mm of Xmax
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Great news, finally something better then the Deltalite 2510 II.
I definitely want to try the 3010LF in my superior 2x10 with 8" coaxial driver. Still running the Oberton 10B200 in them which until now can not be topped by other tens when it comes to low distortion with extended xmax. The 9mm xmax of the 3010LF will probably give me a maxspl gain of 2dB, not much but maybe worth it.
 
#11
Bass Unique said:
or the 110 if you like compact!

I would guess using the MB driver, a small combo would be hard to beat. Just taking a guess, I would suspect the HO to go at least to 5 kHz, the MB to around 3.5 kHz and the LF to 2.5 kHz. Based on previous models, expect a rising response from upper mid to HF. I would also guess around 94 dB/W LF, 97 dB/W MB and 99 dB/W HO.

Anyone have specs available yet?

Kappas tend to be higher power so I would suspect 300W to 400W range. That's one monster small combo... or a super monster fridge!
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According to the Eminence website, I was not far off with the LF and MB although this one does not have much of a rising response but nice and flat to 3+ kHz - no word on the HO yet?
 
#12
I added the PDF from the Eminence site to my spread sheet.
These are interesting drivers, sort of.

The 10LF isn't much of a bass driver, and certainly not a subwoofer.
The best F3 it gets is about 69 Hz in either Flat or Qb3.
The published and calculated (low) sensitivity is about 92, same as the BP102-8.

BP102 has a low F3 and big box. 3010LF has a high F3 and a tiny box.
The very strong Bl might be useful in a horn.
Performance-wise, 3010LF appears to be just a beefed-up S2010, but at 2x the weight.

Using the PDF specs, I'm surprised the 3010LF weighs as much as it does.
At 7.6 pounds it is only slightly less than the BP102-8 at 8.9 pounds.
Since these are v1.0 specs, perhaps there are errors.
 
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Don't see anything on the HO there. The LF sort of looks like a glorified BP-102. Was really expecting more spl out of that. At least some 94-95db....little closer to the 12LF. It would take multiples of those to get output. Unless you're looking for a little restaraunt gig cab with massive low end. The MB (midbass?) would need a huge box for a 10 to reach deep enough for bass use.

Not to poo-poo too much but these things aren't what I expected. May have better attributes for PA use but not so much bass cabs. I would think you'd get a better overall result in a bass cab using stuff that's already out there. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
#16
bgavin said:
I added the PDF from the Eminence site to my spread sheet.
These are interesting drivers, sort of.

The 10LF isn't much of a bass driver, and certainly not a subwoofer.
The best F3 it gets is about 69 Hz in either Flat or Qb3.
The published and calculated (low) sensitivity is about 92, same as the BP102-8.

BP102 has a low F3 and big box. 3010LF has a high F3 and a tiny box.
The very strong Bl might be useful in a horn.
Performance-wise, 3010LF appears to be just a beefed-up S2010, but at 2x the weight.

Using the PDF specs, I'm surprised the 3010LF weighs as much as it does.
At 7.6 pounds it is only slightly less than the BP102-8 at 8.9 pounds.
Since these are v1.0 specs, perhaps there are errors.
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I didn't notice the 1 volt qualifier there, that changes things.
 
#17
will33 said:
Not to poo-poo too much but these things aren't what I expected. May have better attributes for PA use but not so much bass cabs. I would think you'd get a better overall result in a bass cab using stuff that's already out there. Maybe I'm missing something.
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+1, make that +2

Entirely useless for a bass cab. Not sure what their intended use might be, but it sure isn't a being everybody's answer to high performance 10" bass cabs.....

They say, you can have only 2 out of "low, loud and small".... those speakers achieve only the "small", not low and certainly not lound..... :eek: :hmm:
 
#18
OldogNewTrick said:
+1, make that +2

Entirely useless for a bass cab. Not sure what their intended use might be, but it sure isn't a being everybody's answer to high performance 10" bass cabs.....

They say, you can have only 2 out of "low, loud and small".... those speakers achieve only the "small", not low and certainly not lound..... :eek: :hmm:
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To be honest, I didn't dig into these things anywhere near as deep as bgavin has, pretty much just saw the spl chart and dismissed it right away. I assumed the LF went deep for giving up all that output but apparently it doesn't.

The MB looked to have good output and excursion, so I got as far as the cab design page. The biggest one they did, 1.75 cu.ft. for a single 10, still rolls off at 80-some hz. Common 210's are around 2cu.ft. net.

I don't know enough about horns and line arrays and stuff to know if they have advantages there.
 
#19
OldogNewTrick said:
+1, make that +2

Entirely useless for a bass cab. Not sure what their intended use might be, but it sure isn't a being everybody's answer to high performance 10" bass cabs.....
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The Kappalites were designed with the pro audio market in mind and were not designed specifically to be bass cabinet drivers.
 

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