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New Musicman Nut Design

#64
The compensated nut (ON BASS) is a gimmick. Do a few searches on the EB forum and you will see that the guy who designed it doesn't believe it really improves anything on a BASS guitar. On the other hand, it certainly isn't hurting anything, so who cares really :)
 
#65
king_biscuit said:
The compensated nut (ON BASS) is a gimmick.
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You might be overstating some information that's on my website, which is:

"The intonated nut should affect the intonation most at the first through fifth frets. One of the engineers who worked on the Bongo said, "..the nut shouldn't make that much difference to the average player. It was originally designed for guitar, where it makes a difference when playing chords. Since most bass players don't play a lot of chords, especially near the nut, it's probably not much of an issue.""

Now that quote came from someone whose relationship with the company was over during the Bongo development phase, and I've given some thought to taking it down because I'm not at all sure how accurate it is.
 
#67
bovinehost said:
You might be overstating some information that's on my website, which is:

"The intonated nut should affect the intonation most at the first through fifth frets. One of the engineers who worked on the Bongo said, "..the nut shouldn't make that much difference to the average player. It was originally designed for guitar, where it makes a difference when playing chords. Since most bass players don't play a lot of chords, especially near the nut, it's probably not much of an issue.""

Now that quote came from someone whose relationship with the company was over during the Bongo development phase, and I've given some thought to taking it down because I'm not at all sure how accurate it is.
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Interesting info, thanks. I'm still not convinced its necessary on a bass, but that's ok, again, it certainly is not hurting anything :)
 
#70
Rick Brienzo said:
I don't see how this would affect pitch while fretting a note. When fretting a note the pitch is determined by distance between the fret and the bridge. The nut is out of play at that point.
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Well, you're leaving out a couple things. String tension and string gauge also affect pitch. String gauge is constant. Does string tension differ depending on what fret you play at? Enough to matter? I know when you attack a string real hard, it'll start off a bit sharp until it isn't vibrating so much.
 
#71
Joe Nerve said:
I think they should stop calling it a nut, because the nut has too many either funny, or negative connotations. I think the nut should start getting the respect it deserves and be called something like "the piece that holds the strings in place at the top of the neck", or something more descriptive like that.

my nut is fanned.
i have a plastic nut.
my nut is made of bone.
my nut is thicker in some places.
i just filed my nut.
got a new nut this week.
ernie ball has new nuts.
i have a compensated nut.
my nuts help my intonation.

arrrgh! it just ain't right.
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I broke my nut :hiding:
 
#72
Jack and Paul have pretty much covered what's so wrong with pretty much everything that Bassflute had to say. Is the compensated nut going to change the face of music as we know it? Probably not. Is it going to help that 'A' at the second fret on a G string ring a bit more in tune over a long sustained note? Maybe. I can live with maybe.

I just wanted to add that after reading Bassflute's posts, I've come to the conclusion that he has the interpersonal skills of a week old doughnut.
 
#73
I've had 2 EBMM Sterlings with the regular nut and now own an EBMM Sterling with the new "compensated nut". Awesome machines, every one of them!

All basses were very well made, all stayed in tune even through wacky temp changes in the winter time and humidity in the summer. They all were fine with regards to intonation. Not perfect, but no bass is.

The new nut does very little to help intonation, if anything at all, compared to the old one.

Do not base any purchase of one EBMM bass over another solely on the new nut or lack thereof. Basing it on color will have more of an impact than the nut will!!:smug:
 
#79
Joe Nerve said:
I think they should stop calling it a nut, because the nut has too many either funny, or negative connotations. I think the nut should start getting the respect it deserves and be called something like "the piece that holds the strings in place at the top of the neck", or something more descriptive like that.

my nut is fanned.
i have a plastic nut.
my nut is made of bone.
my nut is thicker in some places.
i just filed my nut.
got a new nut this week.
ernie ball has new nuts.
i have a compensated nut.
my nuts help my intonation.

arrrgh! it just ain't right.
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ahh the maturity on this forum :D

just kidding

I think it should be called a neckpiece, headpiece fretpiece, stringpiece or something-else piece, since the bridge is also called a tailpiece......why cant the nut also be a piece of somesory
 

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