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Double Bass New! Pirastro Perpetual Double Bass strings

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rickwolff said:
I don't know who wrote these descriptions (is that you, Mark), but I think they are Bang-on.
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Thanks, Rick. I'm pretty sure that the Obligato description is a hanger-on from my dad's original copy; I wrote the take on the Perpetuals. I try my best to shy away from superlatives, but writing about strings is often like dancing about architecture (a modified version of the analogy that is usually attributed to Martin Mull).
 
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rickwolff said:
Dave, I would consider these to be an excellent hybrid string. They are so similar to the Obligatos that it really surprising that they are such different compositions (synthetic vs rope-steel).

As to Corellis I couldn't say as I've never played those. The Perpetual bow very well but I'm not much of an arco player. Perhaps @Sam Dingle would add his thoughts.
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Me too i'm not much a arco player.. just a little question are perpetual more softly as touch than obligato?
 
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I'm about to pull the trigger, I'm hoping for love at first sight.
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According to FedEx my test set of Perpetual strings shipped from Offenbach, Germany yesterday...and it arrived at my doorstep here in Florida this morning! How is this even possible? Do they have a special high-speed jet for delivering strings? Why did it take 4 to 6 weeks to get my Boba Fett action figure?

- Steve
 
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bassfiddlesteve said:
According to FedEx my test set of Perpetual strings shipped from Offenbach, Germany yesterday...and it arrived at my doorstep here in Florida this morning! How is this even possible? Do they have a special high-speed jet for delivering strings? Why did it take 4 to 6 weeks to get my Boba Fett action figure?

- Steve
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Ja!!
Same here! they are Germans that's is my explanation.
 
#228
The Perpetuals are on my German 19C 3/4 bass and I love them. They have the smooth feel and flexibility of the metal-wrapped EP Slaps but with more 'regular' string gauges, the tension of downtuned Spiro Solos but a way nicer G, and the precision and projection of regular Spiros. Famous last words but I think my string experimentation is over.

Does of course mean I have a pile of other strings that will end up for sale!
 
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[QUOTE="Does of course mean I have a pile of other strings that will end up for sale![/QUOTE]

In your pile of strings have you something good for a fender jazz and for a Musicman Bongo 5?
 
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Okay, I can see why people couldn’t tell the difference between these strings and Obligatos in the other thread by @rickwolff

I installed the Perpetual strings on my Wunderlich hybrid today, replacing an eight-month old set of Obligatos. I immediately noticed how flexible the Perpetuals were when I took them out of the package, but once I installed them the tuning stabilized almost immediately. They are very similar in sound and feel to the Obligatos, but without any rolling on the lower strings. The pizzicato sound is clear and growly with good sustain, but they don’t have the punch and brightness of a new Spirocore. The arco response seems similar to Obligato as well. The real test will be on a gig. If they perform similarly to the Obligatos but with better durability and clarity when amplified, I think these may be the new standard for a hybrid string.

- Steve
 
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Steve, I agree they are very similar to the Obligatos.

However, with just the D Obligato I could hear and feel some difference. I just put the Perpetual D back on and it was immediately obvious that 'the whole family was back together'. All four strings blend so incredibly well with each other it's a real joy.

Also, your comment about the tuning stabilizing almost immediately continues to impress me.

Yup, no doubt about it. I really like these strings.
 
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Just to update from my last post (#204 on the previous page)

I kept them on my bass for another day and then broke down and bought a new set of spriocore mittels. For me the perpetuals were just a little bit too low tension, mostly for arco because that was kind of pleasant for pizz. That being said I think they bowed fine, maybe a little darker than sprios as others have said but I couldn't get over the "soft" feeling of them under the bow, which is just a personal preference.

After putting a new set of spirocores on I feel like I am back at home. Spriocore mittels are more punchy and louder on my bass no doubt, a bit brighter with more clarity (especially under the bow). I am mostly sharing this to say if you are happy with spirocores you'll probably still be happy with spriocores. Maybe if you play downtuned spriocore solos and you are wishing they sounded a bit fuller then I would say check out the perpetuals, but if you enjoy the feeling of spriocores then I think as it has been said a thousand times before on this site, just stick to spriocores.
 
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Mgaisbacher said:
Just to update from my last post (#204 on the previous page)

I kept them on my bass for another day and then broke down and bought a new set of spriocore mittels. For me the perpetuals were just a little bit too low tension, mostly for arco because that was kind of pleasant for pizz. That being said I think they bowed fine, maybe a little darker than sprios as others have said but I couldn't get over the "soft" feeling of them under the bow, which is just a personal preference.

After putting a new set of spirocores on I feel like I am back at home. Spriocore mittels are more punchy and louder on my bass no doubt, a bit brighter with more clarity (especially under the bow). I am mostly sharing this to say if you are happy with spirocores you'll probably still be happy with spriocores. Maybe if you play downtuned spriocore solos and you are wishing they sounded a bit fuller then I would say check out the perpetuals, but if you enjoy the feeling of spriocores then I think as it has been said a thousand times before on this site, just stick to spriocores.
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This was exactly my feeling when putting them on my shen. Spiro mittles with a stark E made that bass roar. My juzek has a super long string length and these loosened it up.

Im surprised people keep saying these are like downtuned solos because they move the top better than weichs on my juzek. To me, having never tried spiro solos, the pers are heavier than the weich strings with more punch.
 

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