New PJ Mustang at Summer NAMM

[BassmentPlayer]

>>loosen a string down a whole note and see how much more dead the string sounds.

They have these things, called short scale strings.

Tension is not strictly a function of scale length.

 

[marh415]

I have D'addario chromes on my Namm Mustang & they work fine - I did get the short scale and they fit perfectly - I liked them so much that I put them on my Fender Precision and I was not dissapointed.

Good to know, I ended up ordering the DR Hi Beam SS for it, I have them on my other two basses. Now if only my bass would come back into stock!

 

[fjadams]

Like I said in my message, there is less tension on the strings on a short scale. It's logical that looseer strings are not going to "pop" as much and have the same sound. Loosen a string down a whole note and see how much more dead the string sounds. Same concept for long scale vs short scale.

I now have 25 or so short scales and have had more in the last 50 years and have no idea of the "inherent dead sound" you speak of is. Have you ever actually owned or played any, or just another one of the wankers with their "I've never played a short scale, but here are the reasons you shouldn't" mantra? With the proper strings you can get any short scale to sound any way you want it to providing the pickups and electronics can produce that sound.

 

[rage941]

I now have 25 or so short scales and have had more in the last 50 years and have no idea of the "inherent dead sound" you speak of is. Have you ever actually owned or played any, or just another one of the wankers with their "I've never played a short scale, but here are the reasons you shouldn't" mantra? With the proper strings you can get any short scale to sound any way you want it to providing the pickups and electronics can produce that sound.

Yeah I mentioned that I owned a MIJ Mustang (had Nordstrand NM4 pickups) and that I played the new PJ Mustang and liked it. I'm just having a discussion here bud, no need to get defensive or call someone a wanker because our experiences differ. If we were chatting in a music shop as fellow bass players would you say something snide like that to me in person? If not then why be that way on the internet?

 

[Feralhog]

To combat flubbery E strings, what are some string types and/or brands that are higher tension than the strings normally provided (Fender® USA, NPS, .045 - .105 in the case of the bass this thread is about)?

 

[Gordonymous]

To combat flubbery E strings, what are some string types and/or brands that are higher tension than the strings normally provided (Fender® USA, NPS, .045 - .105 in the case of the bass this thread is about)?

I can't find the actual strings that allegedly come with the bass (at least not short scale).

 

[skeeler]

To combat flubbery E strings, what are some string types and/or brands that are higher tension than the strings normally provided (Fender® USA, NPS, .045 - .105 in the case of the bass this thread is about)?

Tension is determined by scale length, pitch, and linear density (mass per unit length). Most strings of a given type have approximately the same volumetric density, so look for for a set with larger diameters (gauges) to achieve higher linear density. Kalium has a string-tension chart for any scale length you choose, and it should be approximately correct for other roundwound strings. I've used La Bella sets with E strings of 0.110 and 0.115 on my SG to achieve this effect. Getting the right winding length will be important. BassStringsOnline has good page with the winding lengths of various brands' different lengths. Can anyone with a Mustang measure the distance from the ball to the far edge of the nut?

 

[Feralhog]

Tension is determined by scale length, pitch, and linear density (mass per unit length). Most strings of a given type have approximately the same volumetric density, so look for for a set with larger diameters (gauges) to achieve higher linear density. Kalium has a string-tension chart for any scale length you choose, and it should be approximately correct for other roundwound strings. I've used La Bella sets with E strings of 0.110 and 0.115 on my SG to achieve this effect. Getting the right winding length will be important. BassStringsOnline has good page with the winding lengths of various brands' different lengths. Can anyone with a Mustang measure the distance from the ball to the far edge of the nut?

31 3/8" on my Mustang PJ.....

 

[skeeler]

31 3/8" on my Mustang PJ.....

Thanks. I forgot to ask for the length from ball to E tuner. It looks like it's about 1.5 inches longer than the length to the nut. That gives a range of 31 3/8 to 32 7/8 for the winding length.

The winding-length page I mentioned is Invalid Link Removed.

Looks like short-scales from D'Addario, GHS, La Bella and others will fit.

 

[BusyFingers]

Good to know, I ended up ordering the DR Hi Beam SS for it, I have them on my other two basses. Now if only my bass would come back into stock!

How do you like these? They aren't too zingy are they?

 

[Feralhog]

Thanks. I forgot to ask for the length from ball to E tuner. It looks like it's about 1.5 inches longer than the length to the nut. That gives a range of 31 3/8 to 32 7/8 for the winding length.

The winding-length page I mentioned is here:

www.bassstringsonline.com/Bass-String-Len…

Looks like short-scales from D'Addario, GHS, La Bella and others will fit.

I got a "Page not Found" message but I reckon if its on that web site I can find it!

Thanks,

 

[skeeler]

Sorry. Paste error. I fixed it.

 

[skeeler]

Can anyone comment on how the Mustang balances on a strap? Given that the headstock is full-sized and the tuners are large, I'm concerned it may suffer from neck-dive.

 

[steve_ss]

Can anyone comment on how the Mustang balances on a strap? Given that the headstock is full-sized and the tuners are large, I'm concerned it may suffer from neck-dive.

Yes there is some neck dive. I haven't played too many other basses, so I can't comment on how it compares to others. I don't feel it's a problem for me.

 

[fjadams]

Yeah I mentioned that I owned a MIJ Mustang (had Nordstrand NM4 pickups) and that I played the new PJ Mustang and liked it. I'm just having a discussion here bud, no need to get defensive or call someone a wanker because our experiences differ. If we were chatting in a music shop as fellow bass players would you say something snide like that to me in person? If not then why be that way on the internet?

Yeah, that came across as a lot more crass than I had intended. It just annoys me that there are so many experts on everything short scale on here without their actually ever having owned or played one.
Way too many posts from people with the "I've never actually played a short scale, but here are the reasons you shouldn't either." in virtually every thread about shorties or b people asking a question about buying or playing them.
As I've gotten older I find I have a lot less patience with people.

 

[Feralhog]

Thanks. I forgot to ask for the length from ball to E tuner. It looks like it's about 1.5 inches longer than the length to the nut. That gives a range of 31 3/8 to 32 7/8 for the winding length.

The winding-length page I mentioned is Invalid Link Removed.

Looks like short-scales from D'Addario, GHS, La Bella and others will fit.

Ball to center of E tuner is 33 inches.

 

[marh415]

How do you like these? They aren't too zingy are they?

I can't comment just yet, I got my strings and gig bag before my bass since it was back ordered, lol.

I was gonna go with D'addario chromes like my P, but since it came with round wounds, I figured I'd stick to what I'm used to for now.

 

[Boristhespyder]

I can't comment just yet, I got my strings and gig bag before my bass since it was back ordered, lol.

I was gonna go with D'addario chromes like my P, but since it came with round wounds, I figured I'd stick to what I'm used to for now.

I have DR Legend shortscales on the Jag SS that work pretty well. Presume the spacing is the same or very close.

 

[Feralhog]

I have DR Legend shortscales on the Jag SS that work pretty well. Presume the spacing is the same or very close.

The Jag SS is 31.5" to the nut and and 33" to the center of the first tuner so very close!

 

[Stefmeister]

Just dropped a EMG Geezer P into mine can't wait to give it a proper blast at rehearsal tonight. Has anyone else had issues with the bridge saddles winding themselves down?