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New practice room build!

#21
JumboJack - No worries. I don't think you're a jerk at all! I was looking for critiques and suggestions. And yes you're 100% correct. We didn't use pressure treated though because as I said water dosent go past the point we started. We actually just got some heavy rain here on Long Island a few days ago, and everything stayed dry, even with wind blowing. We're going to be siding the open wall also. But if we went to the front of the garage, we would have sealed the floor, sills, pressure treated, etc etc. But yes you're absolutely right. You're not a jerk!

iamlowsound - We'll probably be doing the mudding over the course of a few days. I'm not sure how my friends do it normally, but we're prepared to spend a few days on it. As far as the methods of hot mud etc etc, I'm not sure if that's what they use. So yea both you and JumboJack have valid points. I'm not sure the direction they take though.

chokeslam512 - The beer was there! Probably finished by then haha. We'll have a mini fridge stocked with brews and Red Bulls. As far as the floor goes, we have padding galore, along with rolls of carpeting, an oriental rug for the "jam" area, and about 100 throw rugs we use on stage to choose from for the "chill zone". Haha. Basically the carpeting we're putting down will be covered by decorative throws.
 
#23
MattyH said:
JumboJack - No worries. I don't think you're a jerk at all! I was looking for critiques and suggestions. And yes you're 100% correct. We didn't use pressure treated though because as I said water doesn't go past the point we started. We actually just got some heavy rain here on Long Island a few days ago, and everything stayed dry, even with wind blowing. We're going to be siding the open wall also. But if we went to the front of the garage, we would have sealed the floor, sills, pressure treated, etc etc. But yes you're absolutely right. You're not a jerk!.
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No prob!
It will last you a good long time.Just to be clear though.Treated lumber is used not because we are worried about any flooding or rain water.It's because concrete is never 100% dry and wicks water.So any wood that comes in contact with it will absorb the water and eventually rot.

Don't worry about it.Rock on!
 
#26
Jaco D said:
I was just thinking. Instead of finishing the walls and adding the mural, why not finish it with sound absorbing material (foam, those egg carton like things, etc.) so the unit could function as a recording area if you guys decide to do so.
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Yup, we actually have the egg foam. It dampens the sound quite nicely in our space we have now. We just threw it up on the wall there, but in the new room, we're gonna paint it, cut it neatly, and place it around the room in problem areas. Thanks for the reminder I forgot to mention we were doing that.
 
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JumboJack said:
No prob!
It will last you a good long time.Just to be clear though.Treated lumber is used not because we are worried about any flooding or rain water.It's because concrete is never 100% dry and wicks water.So any wood that comes in contact with it will absorb the water and eventually rot.

Don't worry about it.Rock on!
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^ This is 100 % correct, anytime you have lumber touching concrete of any kind, wether or not if it gets wet, you are suppose to use green lumber (Pressure Treated) with foam in between the wood and concrete....;)
 
#30
Hey Matt, what are you doing for heating or cooling the room? I want to do the same thing you guys have for my garage, but as you know in our area (im in jersey), the temp varies from 0 to over 100 throughout the year. I can layer up in the winter but summer would be unbearable. Also the humidity could turn everything to mush, so I have to consider a dehumidifier too. Just wondering if you have any good ideas about climate control, without spending major $$$'s.
 
#32
raybone said:
Hey Matt, what are you doing for heating or cooling the room? I want to do the same thing you guys have for my garage, but as you know in our area (im in jersey), the temp varies from 0 to over 100 throughout the year. I can layer up in the winter but summer would be unbearable. Also the humidity could turn everything to mush, so I have to consider a dehumidifier too. Just wondering if you have any good ideas about climate control, without spending major $$$'s.
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Yea, what we're doing for the winter months is simply placing a small heater with a control that'll shut off and turn on automatically when the temp gets too low, or too hot. So it'll stay at a comfortable temp. In the summer, we're installing a portable windowless air conditioner. Basically what it does is suck the hot air out and sends it outside through a dryer type vent we're putting in the wall. The guy helping us build it has one in his shop and says it works great. He's used them in clients garages and the clients love them. Then when the cold weather comes around, we take the vent out, and close up the hole in the wall with a trap door.

As far as dryness and humidity is concerned, we're with you. These summer months can get really dry, or really wet. We don't want warping, dampness, or spackle dripping off the wall! Haha. So our solution right now, is to feel it out, and see what the conditions do to the room. If the heater or the air conditioner dosent work to keep humidity down/up, then we'll add a small de/humidifier. Basically we're not sure what to expect yet, but the conditioner and the small heater are musts. We'll wait and see what we need in the other department when the time comes.

Good luck in your build! If you pull the trigger, be sure to create a thread and share!
 
#34
MattyH said:
Yea, what we're doing for the winter months is simply placing a small heater with a control that'll shut off and turn on automatically when the temp gets too low, or too hot. So it'll stay at a comfortable temp. In the summer, we're installing a portable windowless air conditioner. Basically what it does is suck the hot air out and sends it outside through a dryer type vent we're putting in the wall. The guy helping us build it has one in his shop and says it works great. He's used them in clients garages and the clients love them. Then when the cold weather comes around, we take the vent out, and close up the hole in the wall with a trap door.

As far as dryness and humidity is concerned, we're with you. These summer months can get really dry, or really wet. We don't want warping, dampness, or spackle dripping off the wall! Haha. So our solution right now, is to feel it out, and see what the conditions do to the room. If the heater or the air conditioner dosent work to keep humidity down/up, then we'll add a small de/humidifier. Basically we're not sure what to expect yet, but the conditioner and the small heater are musts. We'll wait and see what we need in the other department when the time comes.

Good luck in your build! If you pull the trigger, be sure to create a thread and share!
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Yeah thats what i was thinking, just getting some portable units to swap out as the seasons change. Sounds like it should work good for you. Thanks.
 
#35
madmatt said:
It does not look big enough at all.
Good luck!
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Haha the pictures are VERY deceiving. We have 4-5 members, but it's only 3 of us that practice. The others learn songs on their own and show up to the weddings knowing them. They live in the city. The room is actually around the same square footage as the room we rent now. The new one is a little bigger (in length). We'll be just fine. We have storage for our cases, so it'll be a no mess, no clutter situation.
 
#37
Ok here are some new pics. Again, as posted by madmatt, it dosent look big, but the pics are deceiving, and we'll have more than enough room. We figured it all out before we started. These are after the 1st or 2nd coat of spackle. Can't remember. It looks more finished now. I'll have more pics after today. I believe the door and molding are going up today.

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Again. The pics are deceiving. And the fact is, we would GLADLY play in a space HALF this size, just to get out of the $#!t hole we're paying rent for now.
 
#38
Oren Hudson said:
I sincerely hope that the beer is consumed after the work has stopped. Wouldn't want alcahol to get in the way of quality control on this great project. Continued good work. :cool:
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Haha, too funny. We usually have coffee and red bulls during the day, followed by beers towards the end / during clean up. Our fridge we're moving in will be stocked up though. The grocery list for the room consists of:

Killians Irish Red
Kalik
LandShark
Newcastle
Bud Light
Red Bull
Bite Size Snickers / Milky Way

The diet of champions.
 

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