I was thinking about it, but the orange is just so awesome! Can someone give me the link the to the scratch and dented amps section of his website? I cant find it.
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New Rig Question
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I was thinking about it, but the orange is just so awesome! Can someone give me the link the to the scratch and dented amps section of his website? I cant find it.
http://www.avatarspeakers.com/scratch and dent.htm
the 212 is larger and heavier, and sounds different than the 210, both would be good, and you can get either in orange.
the popular thing to do is get the 212 AND the 210, so whichever you get, get the other as your second cab later (or not, two of the same cab is also popular), and that would be a sick rig capable of pretty much any venue, and you could upgrade your head later too and those cabs would still work fine with a more powerful head.
the 212 is larger and heavier, and sounds different than the 210, both would be good, and you can get either in orange.
the popular thing to do is get the 212 AND the 210, so whichever you get, get the other as your second cab later (or not, two of the same cab is also popular), and that would be a sick rig capable of pretty much any venue, and you could upgrade your head later too and those cabs would still work fine with a more powerful head.
Okay, tell me if I am wrong.
I am getting the GK Backline 600 in 8 ohms, and the Avatar 210 in orange at 8 ohms so I can buy another cab later on. Right? Do I have my ohms right?
I am getting the GK Backline 600 in 8 ohms, and the Avatar 210 in orange at 8 ohms so I can buy another cab later on. Right? Do I have my ohms right?
you got it...and you can still add any 8 omh cab you want later...
the first Avatar i got was the 212 (8 omh) and then added the 210 (8 omh) and i couldn't be happier. i run them with a GK 700rbII...500 @ 4 omh (both) or 250 @ 8 omh (ether).
the 12s rock for a mid range cut....very usefull for dealing with guitarests that down tune...and the 10s have a very nice "low note".
ive done it all with this stack...i mostly use both heavy rock band but have just used the 12s for the big stage with killer monitors and just the 10s for the acoustic sets we do sometimes.
btw i play a 5er and it totally rocks the low b
just my thoughts....keep us updated!!!
the first Avatar i got was the 212 (8 omh) and then added the 210 (8 omh) and i couldn't be happier. i run them with a GK 700rbII...500 @ 4 omh (both) or 250 @ 8 omh (ether).
the 12s rock for a mid range cut....very usefull for dealing with guitarests that down tune...and the 10s have a very nice "low note".
ive done it all with this stack...i mostly use both heavy rock band but have just used the 12s for the big stage with killer monitors and just the 10s for the acoustic sets we do sometimes.
btw i play a 5er and it totally rocks the low b
just my thoughts....keep us updated!!!
youve got the cabs right.
you dont buy the head "in a certain ohms" the head is designed to run at a minimum load of 4 ohms, what it actually runs at is determined by the cabs. running at a higher impedance of 8 ohms will simply occur from you using just one 8 ohm cab. the head will be 4 or 8 depending on what you hook up to it.
so yes get the cab in 8 ohms so you can add another, and the backline 600, but you dont have to specify the ohms on the head, it will do both 4 and 8.
the reason you need 8ohms on your cab in order to get another one later, is if you had two 4 ohm cabs, the load would be 2 ohms with both, and the head is not designed to be able to run safely at 2 ohms.
you dont buy the head "in a certain ohms" the head is designed to run at a minimum load of 4 ohms, what it actually runs at is determined by the cabs. running at a higher impedance of 8 ohms will simply occur from you using just one 8 ohm cab. the head will be 4 or 8 depending on what you hook up to it.
so yes get the cab in 8 ohms so you can add another, and the backline 600, but you dont have to specify the ohms on the head, it will do both 4 and 8.
the reason you need 8ohms on your cab in order to get another one later, is if you had two 4 ohm cabs, the load would be 2 ohms with both, and the head is not designed to be able to run safely at 2 ohms.
At this rate we'll have the poor guy saving up for years to end up with a monster 400 watt tube rig with two 8x10 cabinets.
I can't try the new Acoustic amps here in Canada. For a cheap amp they're supposed to be okay. Lots of new guys buy them and like them. Even some experienced players. As earlier posted-200 watts maximum isn't a whole lot of power but it can be enough with a good speaker cabinet.
I have tried the GK Backline 600 head. For a low priced GK it's pretty darn good. If my budget was limited that's the one I'd get. I like the GK sound and have been using GK amps for many years and they've always delivered for me.
As far as speaker cabinets go, the Avatars seem to be a very good deal, but you can't try them out ahead of time. But most who have tried them like them and say they are an incredible deal. Because Avatar sells direct, doesn't spend a lot on advertising, doesn't do endorsement deals and produces a limited range of stock cabinets, you can get high quality for a lower price.
A 2x10 cabinet can be loud and punchy and can handle gigs for many people. Just depends on what type of sound you want and how loud you need to play. Myself, I'd go for the 2x10 in 8 ohms and if you need more volume in some situations get another 2x10 later.
Exactly! Im going to get the GK in 4 ohms, and the 210 in 8 ohms so I can add on something else later on. Thansk guys, its a big help.
The 210 would be OK if you play at lower levels but to keep up in a rock band with guitars and a drummer a 210 is pushing it. I'm with Stumbo on recommending a 212 to get the most out of your head. Your plan to get an 8 ohm cab and add another later is pretty good though. Just don't expect it to knock down walls with volume or keep up with a loud band till you add another cab. I've gigged in a fairly loud band with an Eden 210 and it worked very well but it did fart a couple of times one night when I pushed it with too much low end. Just be careful with the bass eq.
Great news guys! I am positive I am getting my rig! Both of my sets of grandparents are giving me 100 bucks, plus my parents said they would cover the costs of the cab itself. With this, I should have 420 dollars myself, plus the money needed from my parents. I am so pumped! Ill be sure to update you as it goes.
EDIT: For my birthday, I mean.
EDIT: For my birthday, I mean.
Okay guys. The judgement day has come. Today is my birthday, and I got the last of the large amounts of cash that I will be getting. Im at 610 bones right now, give or take a few dollars. I have been saving for almost a year, so I want the best I can get for the buck.
Should I stick with my current plan? Avatar 210 in orange 8 ohms, with GK Backline 600 head?
I want something I can add on to later, so combos are out. Im building my first rig, so I need this to be perfect. Is this a good setup? Jsingles, earth to Jsingles.
Should I stick with my current plan? Avatar 210 in orange 8 ohms, with GK Backline 600 head?
I want something I can add on to later, so combos are out. Im building my first rig, so I need this to be perfect. Is this a good setup? Jsingles, earth to Jsingles.
hey jord!
One of my fellow music major bass buddies at school uses that EXACT rig (avatar 210 with GK backline 600) and he loves his. I have heard it and it sounds great! I have no doubt in my mind that setup would sound great.
As far as being able to add on more in the future, the 210 cab will prove to be perfect. the avatar 210 cab in 8 ohms will allow you to add any other 8 ohm cab to the rig later! and the 210 is also a great cab by itself.
the head will still work if you add the second cab later, but in the future if you want to move some SERIOUS air, you MIGHT find the 300 watts to not have the headroom you need to run 2 cabinets very loudly. This is typical of a starting rig though, the head might end up being something you want to upgrade in the future (maybe something around 500-700 watts depending on your situation) but the avatar 210 cab definitly won't need upgrading, its a great high quality cab and you can get another one if you need more volume later. you might find the 300 watts is plenty for you to run 2 cabs with (it CERTAINLY is enough for 1 cab)
you have been saving for a long time, and you will love the rig when you get it. its easy to worry about having to upgrade in the future, but in reality, I don't know anybody who hasn't gone through several amp rigs. there will always be something bigger, louder, and more appealing. If you really do find yourself in a situation later where you truly need something bigger and you have to consider switching to a more powerful head, just consider it a sign that youre advancing in your musical career. in the mean time, I really think you will be happy with the avatar/gk setup.
I have used avatar in the past, and still use GK right now, and I love both. I strongly consider both of these brands to offer the best bang for the buck in cabs and heads, respectively.
One of my fellow music major bass buddies at school uses that EXACT rig (avatar 210 with GK backline 600) and he loves his. I have heard it and it sounds great! I have no doubt in my mind that setup would sound great.
As far as being able to add on more in the future, the 210 cab will prove to be perfect. the avatar 210 cab in 8 ohms will allow you to add any other 8 ohm cab to the rig later! and the 210 is also a great cab by itself.
the head will still work if you add the second cab later, but in the future if you want to move some SERIOUS air, you MIGHT find the 300 watts to not have the headroom you need to run 2 cabinets very loudly. This is typical of a starting rig though, the head might end up being something you want to upgrade in the future (maybe something around 500-700 watts depending on your situation) but the avatar 210 cab definitly won't need upgrading, its a great high quality cab and you can get another one if you need more volume later. you might find the 300 watts is plenty for you to run 2 cabs with (it CERTAINLY is enough for 1 cab)
you have been saving for a long time, and you will love the rig when you get it. its easy to worry about having to upgrade in the future, but in reality, I don't know anybody who hasn't gone through several amp rigs. there will always be something bigger, louder, and more appealing. If you really do find yourself in a situation later where you truly need something bigger and you have to consider switching to a more powerful head, just consider it a sign that youre advancing in your musical career. in the mean time, I really think you will be happy with the avatar/gk setup.
I have used avatar in the past, and still use GK right now, and I love both. I strongly consider both of these brands to offer the best bang for the buck in cabs and heads, respectively.
I'm in the same situation as the OP and i'm in a budget i guess, so, i've readed some of therstuff of the Ohms that i didn't know anything about, i'm new to the scene and will start giggind witha metal cover band, sooooo what do you think of this head? [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
But i'm clueless on cabs really, could someone help me out? thanks ^^
But i'm clueless on cabs really, could someone help me out? thanks ^^
IME the Backline 600 is a good starter head (I played one for about a year), but I would choose a larger cab than the 210. You may consider using the money you were going to spend on custom tolex to upgrade to the 212 in carpet (8 ohm). This should give you a bit more oomph annd still let you add another cab if you need to. If I were buying for me, I would pick up a 4 ohm 212 but I already know that an adequately powered 212 is enough for my needs.
