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New Schroeder 1515+L

#22
In fairness, the "pillowy" sound I'm used to isn't even a 15" sound - it's the sound of a BagEnd ELF 118 (if not familiar, think of clean response down into the mid 20's hz). So it's not too fair to expect that from even an excellent 215. I've been using a Dr Bass 2460 with the BagEnd sub for larger gigs. The 2460 is heavier than I like (low 60s) while the 1515+L is pretty light. I'll be interested in how the mid emphasis of the 1515 plays with the BagEnd sub for big rig play. I already suspect the 1515 will be a much more versatile single cab than the 2460 has been (no knock on the 2460, but the 1515+L really does some cool stuff with the mids from my Alembic). If and when the lows open up a bit more on the 1515, with break in, it may be even better. Hmmmm. ;)
 
#24
Bjazzman said:
is the 1515L just a louder 115L or does it produced a little deeper lows? could someone explain to me too what the difference in sound would be from the non-tweeter and tweeter versions?
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To my ear, the non-tweeter version (1515 - compact sized cab) sounds more vintage. The 1515L (mid sized cab) can get a bit more hifi with the tweeter, but of course you could turn it off and still get that semi-vintage sound (not too vintage...I mean...it IS a Schroeder! :p)

I know that the 1515 is much louder than the 15 from when I played it at Jorg's shop...that extra 15 definitely adds some more oomph. :bassist:
 
#25
I love the reviews so far guys.
I've owned Schroeder 410s and 212s and loved them since 2005. But have been looking for a more vintage "old school" 2x15" sound to pair with my NASH '68 Jazz bass (and whatever head I decide on - I sold my TFunk). I think when the time is right, I may give Jorg a call cause these 215 cabs look great and at 40-50lbs...that's just gravy. Keep the reviews comin'!
 
#26
I've had a 1515+L (the medium sized, neo 215 with tweeter) for a little more than a week and have nothing but praise for this 51 lb cabinet. Once the 15s started to loosen up (takes a few hours of play for break-in), the cab has a warm, yet punchy tone. It gets to the deep lows, but does it in a very focused and non-boomy way. It cuts through and occupies a place in the mix that sounds very natural. So, you don't have to overcompensate by raising your volume. It definitely doesn't have what I'd describe as an especially "pillowy" low end, but it is not barky or harsh. It's just warm and focused. I guess in some ways, it reminds me of what a vintage-sounding 215 really sounds like - not like an ultra-low sub, but with a low mid bump of its own (listen closely to James Jamerson lines). At any rate, I'm surprised at how much I really like this cab. I'm considering the possibility of another Schroeder (probably a 1215, but at 51 lb, I could carry a 1515+L in each hand - LOL). ;)
 
#27
Bjazzman said:
is the 1515L just a louder 115L or does it produced a little deeper lows? could someone explain to me too what the difference in sound would be from the non-tweeter and tweeter versions?
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The 115L is a very traditional, front ported, single speaker + tweeter box. It is quite 'tightly voiced' due to that big driver in a small box, and also due, I assume, to the voicing of the Celestion Neo driver. However, it is very even and smooth from the bass to the treble... no significant holes or peaks.

I have not heard the 1515L, but one thing that makes it very different is that it does not have a tweeter (there is a bigger 1515L+ that is two way. Also, from my experience with the 1212L+, a similar design (but with tweeter), having those two speakers crammed in a very little box, with one in an angled baffle, results in HUGE volume, tight, punchy tone, and unfortunately to my ear (at least with the 1212) a strong bump in the lower mids, and a dip in the upper mids. That can work very well in a mix (punchy, tight, loud) but can sound a little uneven solo.

I again really dig the super small size and low weight of the 115L+, and the even, tight sound. I was never a fan of a very small cab that was tuned very low. Those types of cabs sound great solo, but get quickly buried in a mix.

The 115L+ is the best balance of even tone, decent usable low end, and high SPL/loud volume in a small cab that I've experienced. I literally do full pop gigs with this thing and a small 500 watt amp (in my case, I use an LMII).

Wonderful cab.... 75% of the volume of the 1212L, with none of the peaks and valleys to my ear NOTE: I have NOT heard the new 1212L+ with the celestions... Jorg says it's a bit smoother in response).
 
#28
So a pair of 115L+ cabs stacked would be quite versatile and put out a monster sound able to match or exceed a 410. Perhaps this might be a nice substitute for a Berg AE410 for those looking for a 2 cab modular approach?
 
#29
5StringPocket said:
So a pair of 115L+ cabs stacked would be quite versatile and put out a monster sound able to match or exceed a 410. Perhaps this might be a nice substitute for a Berg AE410 for those looking for a 2 cab modular approach?
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It probably would be a nice stack, but I don't know about it competing with a 410.

I would also rather go for 2 different cabs so I have more variety if I want to use one cab solo.

However, I like how you're thinkin'...a stack of Jorg's 15's might be a nice, meaty tone. :hyper:
 
#33
Now that I've had my 1515+L out on two large room gigs, I'm happy to tell you that...well - I'm happy as a clam with this cab. Admittedly, I EQ the bass up about 10% above flat with my Alembic (not a very bassy instrument) and the rooms I've played did offer at least a decent back wall coupling situation, but the 1515+L delivered focused, well-balanced tone, with no lack of deep lows. On the slow 70's anthems, the Estring notes were seismic (I play a 4). The cab places my bass very musically in the mix, so I am trying melodic things I never felt comfortable with before. At this point, I can't imagine needing another cabinet for anything but an outdoor gig. Wow!
 
#35
hard to believe it's only 40lbs..
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Thanks. Actually, this is the first cabinet I actually felt strongly enough about to want people to understand how cool it actually is. Unfortunately (but really not that unfortunately), the cab I have - the 1515+L - is the moderate-sized 215 that weighs in at a (massive - LOL) 51lb. The 1515 is the smaller 215 that weighs 40lb. I find 51lb no trouble at all after all the 65 and 70lb 212s I've lugged around in recent years. Plus with the 212's I always felt compelled to add a 115 or 118 sub to get really deep bass. The 1515+L has its own voice, but covers the deep lows just fine - perhaps even better, as I get used to its more defined sound.


A note on the clarity and definition: I can't speak for other Schroeder cabs, because I've played none of them. But the clear production of your playing and technique with this cab challenges me to finger notes a bit neater - not because they sound bad sloppy, but because you can hear how good they sound when your right and left hands are doing their best job.
 
#36
bassman10096 said:
Thanks. Actually, this is the first cabinet I actually felt strongly enough about to want people to understand how cool it actually is. Unfortunately (but really not that unfortunately), the cab I have - the 1515+L - is the moderate-sized 215 that weighs in at a (massive - LOL) 51lb. The 1515 is the smaller 215 that weighs 40lb. I find 51lb no trouble at all after all the 65 and 70lb 212s I've lugged around in recent years. Plus with the 212's I always felt compelled to add a 115 or 118 sub to get really deep bass. The 1515+L has its own voice, but covers the deep lows just fine - perhaps even better, as I get used to its more defined sound.


A note on the clarity and definition: I can't speak for other Schroeder cabs, because I've played none of them. But the clear production of your playing and technique with this cab challenges me to finger notes a bit neater - not because they sound bad sloppy, but because you can hear how good they sound when your right and left hands are doing their best job.
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+1000 for the 1215L. I recorded our show last Friday, and I rejoiced where I nailed it, and cringed at the clams. :eyebrow:
 
#37
+1 on the all the positive comments of the 1515+L. I was playing my Roscoe through it last night and dialed in the tone I like by bumping up the bass a bit past center on the Roscoe, and on the Thunderfunk I dialed the parimetric bass eq to 2 o'clock and the parametric low mid eq to 9 o'clock (to remove some of the low mid bump that I hear from this cab). Even at a fairly loud volume, it was clean and defined all the way down to the low B. Amazing little cab! :)
 

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