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New Traynor YBA 100!!

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I’m just gonna check in here to drop a reminder that this is a Passive Tone Stack. Cut only, right?

feel free to enlighten my brain but if that were the case, then tone controls full up would be flat? Any adjustments would subtract certain frequency ranges? I know we discussed this very early in the thread but I’m wondering why there’s a difference in perceived volume. Granted a lot of the time I’m using a P-15 or SSDI into the return but I have a lot of volume on tap.


There’s a big difference at 10 (labeled on the dial) than there’s is at noon for the eq so I’m just wondering out loud if this has any bearing on perception.
 
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Lowendtech said:
I’m just gonna check in here to drop a reminder that this is a Passive Tone Stack. Cut only, right?

feel free to enlighten my brain but if that were the case, then tone controls full up would be flat? Any adjustments would subtract certain frequency ranges? I know we discussed this very early in the thread but I’m wondering why there’s a difference in perceived volume. Granted a lot of the time I’m using a P-15 or SSDI into the return but I have a lot of volume on tap.


There’s a big difference at 10 (labeled on the dial) than there’s is at noon for the eq so I’m just wondering out loud if this has any bearing on perception.
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It is a James Tonestack (or passive Baxandall) ... flat is at noon!
 
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bassface69 said:
It is a James Tonestack (or passive Baxandall) ... flat is at noon!
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True, I roll the bass off to about 9:00 to get a good tight sound. At noon it is overwhelming, I could not imagine the bass dimed. Plus the bass control sucks out a lot of power so it's prudent to keep it at reasonable levels. I guess it also depends on the cabs you are using.
 
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Leo was right said:
Is it the original V4B or the reissue?

There is no reason you should have a big difference in volume, 100 w. is 100w. Are you sure about the impedance selection? or maybe something wrong with your unit.
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In theory but I’ve never believed that. My V4B at 100 Watts smokes every head I own:

Traynor YBA-100
Orange Terror Bass 500
Ashdown ABM600

All of my cabinets are 4 Ohms and I’m SURE the Traynor is on 4 ohms setting.
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Frankie Fender said:
True, I roll the bass off to about 9:00 to get a good tight sound. At noon it is overwhelming, I could not imagine the bass dimed. Plus the bass control sucks out a lot of power so it's prudent to keep it at reasonable levels. I guess it also depends on the cabs you are using.
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Ive used mine with 3 different cabs:

Ampeg 212 4ohms
Darkglass 212 4ohms
(2) Orange OBC 112 4ohms total

All can configure require me to run the Bass around 3 O’Clock to get decent punchy low end.
 
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RonnieDobbs said:
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I love this amp. For those who are crying about it not being loud enough, you are trying to rock well beyond your means. If you are playing with a very loud band, y'all need to work on your dynamics. No reasonable person needs a dimed SVT... These amps are for arenas. If you aren't playing regularly in venues that have sound reinforcement, the answer is not a bigger louder amp- this is the most amateur move possible. It is hilarious to go see a bar band with a 500 watt mini PA and no drum mics when their guitarist and bassist have gear like they are on world tour. Lolz.
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Well there Mr. Expert, I toured for years and used an SVT Classic and 810. These days I’m playing 500 person sized venues and I use a 212 cab with a V4B or an Ashdown ABM600. Guitarist uses a Bogner head with a 112. Plenty of house PA support and everything is Mic’d. The Traynor just can’t keep up.

Glad it works for you. For me it doesn’t. It has nothing to do with dynamics. It sounds great FOH but it’s not providing me enough stage volume to compete with mic’d guitars, 3 vox and a loud drummer. Most stage wedges aren’t designed to run as Bass monitors so I need the stage volume.
 
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BaltBass5 said:
Well there Mr. Expert, I toured for years and used an SVT Classic and 810. These days I’m playing 500 person sized venues and I use a 212 cab with a V4B or an Ashdown ABM600. Guitarist uses a Bogner head with a 112. Plenty of house PA support and everything is Mic’d. The Traynor just can’t keep up.

Glad it works for you. For me it doesn’t. It has nothing to do with dynamics. It sounds great FOH but it’s not providing me enough stage volume to compete with mic’d guitars, 3 vox and a loud drummer. Most stage wedges aren’t designed to run as Bass monitors so I need the stage volume.
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Maybe try turning up your mids will cut through the mix better...
 
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I have both the YBA 100 & V-4B (R).
I think for some, myself included, there is some initial dismay since both amps are rated at 100 watts.
There’s an expectation (or at least hope) that the YBA-100 might be similar in power/loudness to the V-4B
Clearly, it is not. While I wouldn't expect them so sound the same, the V-4B takes it to the next level.
It moves more air and there‘s just more “heft” behind the notes.
Power ratings are rarely measured the same way, and at ½ the weight and ½ the price, there’s bound to be some give and take with the Traynor. But the difference is still significant.

All that aside, for me, there's still a lot to like about the YBA 100; its weight, profile and just being an all tube amp, not to mention the price.
Ultimately, it’s just a matter of – will it fit your application?
For me, the answer for me is “yes”. Not every time, but I have other amps, and this is a nice addition.
YMMV
 
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J-Bass RMR said:
I have both the YBA 100 & V-4B (R).
I think for some, myself included, there is some initial dismay since both amps are rated at 100 watts.
There’s an expectation (or at least hope) that the YBA-100 might be similar in power/loudness to the V-4B
Clearly, it is not. While I wouldn't expect them so sound the same, the V-4B takes it to the next level.
It moves more air and there‘s just more “heft” behind the notes.
Power ratings are rarely measured the same way, and at ½ the weight and ½ the price, there’s bound to be some give and take with the Traynor. But the difference is still significant.

All that aside, for me, there's still a lot to like about the YBA 100; its weight, profile and just being an all tube amp, not to mention the price.
Ultimately, it’s just a matter of – will it fit your application?
For me, the answer for me is “yes”. Not every time, but I have other amps, and this is a nice addition.
YMMV
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well said!
 
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BaltBass5 said:
Well there Mr. Expert, I toured for years and used an SVT Classic and 810. These days I’m playing 500 person sized venues and I use a 212 cab with a V4B or an Ashdown ABM600. Guitarist uses a Bogner head with a 112. Plenty of house PA support and everything is Mic’d. The Traynor just can’t keep up.

Glad it works for you. For me it doesn’t. It has nothing to do with dynamics. It sounds great FOH but it’s not providing me enough stage volume to compete with mic’d guitars, 3 vox and a loud drummer. Most stage wedges aren’t designed to run as Bass monitors so I need the stage volume.
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Use a slave.
 
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Just wanted to pop in. Ordered from CoverAmp in Canada:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vjZm8wo6QCxntmXu5

Absolutely fantastic. I have cases from D2F & Tuki and this cover surpasses them both in quality and fit. Highly recommended for Canadians :)

Only thing to note is the Velcro on the bottom strap doesn't seem all that strong. Not sure how it will hold up long term but time will tell.

To further the conversation:

Volume wise, I've found with guitar tube amps especially that watt rating doesn't = volume. For instance my Rocker 30 head on the dirty channel is extremely loud, easily beating 50-60 watt heads. The Ampeg you are talking about is WAY heavier. I would assume it has much larger transformers hence the perceived "weightiness" and volume vs the YBA100? I remember reading somewhere that the YBA100 was designed for dirt not headroom.

Resonance switch, I always keep it enabled. Seems to add low mid punch/warmth and tighten up the low end. From the manual:

5. Resonance Switch The Resonance switch is placed in the output stage of the power amplifier and controls the amount of low frequency damping. Pushing in the switch reduces the damping factor and allows the resonance of the speaker cabinet to be more pronounced. Tip: Having the switch out will increase the damping factor and produce a tighter sound
 
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Boy_Narf said:
Just wanted to pop in. Ordered from CoverAmp in Canada:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/vjZm8wo6QCxntmXu5

Absolutely fantastic. I have cases from D2F & Tuki and this cover surpasses them both in quality and fit. Highly recommended for Canadians :)

Only thing to note is the Velcro on the bottom strap doesn't seem all that strong. Not sure how it will hold up long term but time will tell.
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That's prettier than a new set of snow tires! :D
 
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