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New Warwick Vertical 410

gtirard

gtirard

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Found this on Thomann and Warwick website
  • Available in 4ohm or 8ohm versions
  • 800W
  • Sensitivity unknown
  • Weight 30.3 kg / 66,80 lb - comparable to a Markbass 410, heavier than Barefaced and GR Bass, but lighter than many others
  • Recessed castors and handle, for easy transport
  • Same price range as Markbass
Comments:
  • It's the first time I see a vertical 410, have I missed any other?
  • I like this vertical design, I guess it brings the sound closer to ear level and It takes up less space on stage, why don't we see vertical 410 more often?
  • I don't need a new cab right now, but if I was in the market for 410, I'd be tempted. If anyone has had experience with a Warwick Sage serie cabs, are they any good?

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gtirard said:
Found this on Thomann and Warwick website
  • Available in 4ohm or 8ohm versions
  • 800W
  • Sensitivity unknown
  • Weight 30.3 kg / 66,80 lb - comparable to a Markbass 410, heavier than Barefaced and GR Bass, but lighter than many others
  • Recessed castors and handle, for easy transport
  • Same price range as Markbass
Comments:
  • It's the first time I see a vertical 410, have I missed any other?
  • I like this vertical design, I guess it brings the sound closer to ear level and It takes up less space on stage, why don't we see vertical 410 more often?
  • I don't need a new cab right now, but if I was in the market for 410, I'd be tempted. If anyone has had experience with a Warwick Sage serie cabs, are they any good?

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That is the driver arrangement I prefer for anything over two woofers!

It's got wheels at the bottom of the back side of the cab which is nice!
 
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gtirard said:
Do you know any other vertical 410?
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Bergantino has made the staggered style two or three times - the most recent was the NV410T.
[Their now discontinued HG410(X) had a straight vertical three woofers on the front of the cab and one rear-facing woofer - my all time favorite cab design.]

RevSound makes two straight up verticals, RS410V & RS410VT.

Trickfish made one straight up vertical for a brief amount of time.

Not sure, but there were probably others.
 
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JimChjones said:
So, what's the diference between having the drivers in a staggered arrangement like that and having all the drivers vertically aligned? Does it affect dispersion?
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Dispersion is only slightly affected.

I think the staggered design is a bit less likely to tip over.

I played a gig on a big old flatbed trailer, with worn out and patched up lumber for the bed, that I definitely wouldn't have wanted to use a straight 410 on.

I used an EA CX-310, which is a straight vertical cab, but it was like 18" W x 19" D and weighed over 100 pounds plus a 4 space rack on top, for that gig and I was not entirely sure it was going to make it through the gig.
 
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In the past horizontal was needed to fit Bass heads and Racks; Staggered could work with many but not all Amps back then

With today's modern Class D amps Vertical is now possible but maybe Staggered Vertical is best compromise
like Bergantino

I posted in Mesa Club asking Andy for his opinion and understanding as he went Staggered for 2x10 and horizontal for Subway 4X10🙂
 
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Nebadon2000 said:
In the past horizontal was needed to fit Bass heads and Racks; Staggered could work with many but not all Amps back then

With today's modern Class D amps Vertical is now possible but maybe Staggered Vertical is best compromise
like Bergantino

I posted in Mesa Club asking Andy for his opinion and understanding as he went Staggered for 2x10 and horizontal for Subway 4X10🙂
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For what it's worth, I've made a study about cab modularity. All Mesa Subway cabs share the same width except the 410.
Andy could make staggered 410, that one could combine with any other Subway, but you can already stack 2x210 for roughly the same result.
 
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I like the form factor, the rolled grille edges are a nice touch. I’d a bit ‘black metal cab’ - be good in a softer colour.
A cube-shaped cab offers max internal volume for a given surface area of speaker cone face vs quantity of material to build the cab. There’s a probably a non irrelevant difference in acoustic impedance for the speaker on the top vs the middle drivers but, in practice probably not that much of a factor - lose a bit of power to SPL output. But modern drivers have massively increased power handling compared to speakers from yesteryear so it’s not like you have to do everything you can in the cab design to eek out the last drop of acoustic energy per watt.
I like it - you wouldn’t want to stack two, but I only gig a single 4x10 anyway!
 
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John D Harris said:
Bergantino has made the staggered style two or three times - the most recent was the NV410T.
[Their now discontinued HG410(X) had a straight vertical three woofers on the front of the cab and one rear-facing woofer - my all time favorite cab design.]

RevSound makes two straight up verticals, RS410V & RS410VT.

Trickfish made one straight up vertical for a brief amount of time.

Not sure, but there were probably others.
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Aguilar made a verticle 4x12” for a while as well…
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Somewhat reminiscent of a guitar cab that Sunn had in the late 60’s(sealed/no ports)…
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