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New Yamaha BB series

I see. Thanks bigben and hypercarrots.

I've read about half of the 28 pages of this thread. It seems most are happy with the 400 and 700 series basses. Not much on the p35.

What is your take? Do you find value in the p35 over the 735? I can't play either of them in person before I buy, but I do trust Yamaha, as they generally do great work on everything they make. My very first bass was a 1995 yamaha BBN5 and I still regret selling that bass.

I would lean towards the 735 only because I think I would like the master volume and pickup pan over the VVT controls of the P35.

The 735 is different in that it has the option to go for a modern active sound with the preamp. But you still get the warm passive sounds due to the active/passive switch. That makes it more flexible.
But if your just looking for a great passive bass with top craftsmanship and you have the funds consider the P35.
 
The 735 is different in that it has the option to go for a modern active sound with the preamp. But you still get the warm passive sounds due to the active/passive switch. That makes it more flexible.
But if your just looking for a great passive bass with top craftsmanship and you have the funds consider the P35.
Sounds good. Yeah, my dream bass right now is a great passive 5 string PJ bass that has an authentic P bass sound and has that extra kick of a bridge pickup when I need it. I can live without active basses. I don't mind paying more for excellent craftsmanship.

I think it's a shame that Fender is not making this kind of bass right now, or at least I can't find it if they are.

Think I'll go for the P35 then. Thanks.
 
Sounds good. Yeah, my dream bass right now is a great passive 5 string PJ bass that has an authentic P bass sound and has that extra kick of a bridge pickup when I need it. I can live without active basses. I don't mind paying more for excellent craftsmanship.

I think it's a shame that Fender is not making this kind of bass right now, or at least I can't find it if they are.

Think I'll go for the P35 then. Thanks.

I think that the P35 is exactly that and I'm sure you won't regret it. :thumbsup:
Fender does have that with the American Elite Precision but they only have it as a 4-string. Imo when it comes to PJ basses no one does it better than Yamaha with the BB series. :cool:
 
Anyone know which strings come stock on the BBP35?

I just scored a great deal on a used one and the owner has installed Fodera 45 65 85 105 125 stainless steel round wounds. Just wondering if that string gage is going to fit in the nut as Yamaha intended.

The stock strings are D'Addario EXL170-5, 45-65-80-100-130. But the nut should be able to take the above-mentioned gauges with no issue.
 
I was just going by the Yamaha Canada spec sheet.

BB Series - Specs - Yamaha - Canada - English

Yep, that's what the spec sheet says...... But when I queried Yamaha support, (because I didn't think the strings fitted to my BBP34 were D'Addario), they replied, "Thank you for your email regarding your Yamaha BBP34. Our Guitar Specialist has advised that the BBP34 is factory fitted with Elixir 4-String Nanoweb E14077 Nickel Plated Bass Strings, 45-105. I hope this helps and thank you for contacting Yamaha Music Europe GmbH (UK)."
 
Yep, that's what the spec sheet says...... But when I queried Yamaha support, (because I didn't think the strings fitted to my BBP34 were D'Addario), they replied, "Thank you for your email regarding your Yamaha BBP34. Our Guitar Specialist has advised that the BBP34 is factory fitted with Elixir 4-String Nanoweb E14077 Nickel Plated Bass Strings, 45-105. I hope this helps and thank you for contacting Yamaha Music Europe GmbH (UK)."

Interesting... Thanks for the info.
 
Hi folks, this is actually my first post. I've been reading the forum for years but only joined today.

I'd like to weigh in on a few things that have been mentioned already, if I can.

First, I've read a lot of posts describing how people are never able to find any BB's in stores, which has largely been my experience as well. Perhaps it could be the fault of Yamaha's sales and marketing departments as has been mentioned a few times, but I'm going to offer an alternative. I worked in instrument retail in eastern Canada for approximately 10 years and have seen the politics in action. In addition to instrument sales and rentals, The company I used to work for was also responsible for Canada-wide Gibson distribution. At the time I remember asking our guitar department manager "Why don't we sell Yamaha SG (SBG) guitars? We sell tons of Yamaha acoustic guitars, pianos, keyboards, drums, orchestral instruments, and studio gear, why can't we get those guitars?" The answer I got was that Yamaha electric guitars competes "too" directly with Gibson, especially the SG (SGB) which was essentially a Les Paul that was pound for pound a better guitar and sold for a grand less than a LP Standard. While I'm not suggesting a conspiracy of sorts, the instrument industry is full of politics and is not immune to lobbying. I really can't say this with any certainty, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if a company like Fender uses it's weight to lean on retailers. Much like the case I mentioned about the similarity between SGBs and LP's, the BB is basically a sounder PJ bass. Put a $1000 Fender against a $1000 Yamaha, and unless you're a diehard Fender fanboy, you'll probably notice how much better Yamaha's QC is. Again, I really can't prove anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were the case. If Yamaha was fraught with sales and distribution problems, why do music stores all over the world have tons of stock when it comes to Yamaha Pianos, drums, etc... When I started in the industry, there was bit more competition and less monopoly (Guitar Center in the US, Long & McQuade in Canada), and manufactures and distributors used to make similar deals with individual retailers all the time (and likely still do), eg. "you can carry our Product as long as you don't carry brand X. Or we'll give you exclusive access to our products in your city/state/province, but as a stipulation, you can't sell our competitor."

Second, In my experience. If you're in a small city or isolated region, markets are generally more traditional. What I mean by that is, a lot of players in small cities and towns tend to go for Fender/Gibson. Having worked in the industry in a small city I was always kind of surprised by how little curiosity there was for anything beyond those two brands, especially in guitar sales. This wasn't necessarily the case when it came to pedals, everyone was excited to try the latest boutique brand, made in someone's garage in the middle of nowhere. I always thought it was strange that there are so many companies who make superior quality teles to Fender, yet guys kept shelling out thousands of dollars for guitars that often had faulty N3 pickups and short circuiting S1 switches... It was only the biggest basement-collector/gear heads that expressed any interest in brands like Reverend, Suhr, Framus, G&L, or even Yamaha (when it comes to electrics). So, to a fair degree I think these retailers are making calculated decisions to stock what they know is going to sell over what's new and exciting. I remember we got Warwick basses once. They sat there for years while the same 3-tone sunburst Jazz bass sold again and again. For this, it's hard to blame the retailers. Instruments sales are down everywhere, the internet is squeezing them out, and the retail space is more monopolized by the day. They have to stock what they know is going to sell. That said, I've seen high-end Yamahas in stores, but always in large cities where there's a market for it.

Lastly, I've noticed a bunch of people say they prefer the V, T, 3ws to the current V, V, T. I have a BB1025X and have been toying with the idea of changing the setup to V, T, blend and was going to ask for advice about what kind of pot I should get to be able to have a blend knob. Ultimately it's not the end of the world, I don't mind the 3-way switch, but I've always enjoyed getting those in-between tones you can get from VVT or VVblend.

Glad to join the community.

Cheers
 
Just a survey for my BB734A tuner replacement. Should i go with Schaller BM Chrome or Ruthenium?
 

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Hi folks, this is actually my first post. I've been reading the forum for years but only joined today.

I'd like to weigh in on a few things that have been mentioned already, if I can.

First, I've read a lot of posts describing how people are never able to find any BB's in stores, which has largely been my experience as well. Perhaps it could be the fault of Yamaha's sales and marketing departments as has been mentioned a few times, but I'm going to offer an alternative. I worked in instrument retail in eastern Canada for approximately 10 years and have seen the politics in action. In addition to instrument sales and rentals, The company I used to work for was also responsible for Canada-wide Gibson distribution. At the time I remember asking our guitar department manager "Why don't we sell Yamaha SG (SBG) guitars? We sell tons of Yamaha acoustic guitars, pianos, keyboards, drums, orchestral instruments, and studio gear, why can't we get those guitars?" The answer I got was that Yamaha electric guitars competes "too" directly with Gibson, especially the SG (SGB) which was essentially a Les Paul that was pound for pound a better guitar and sold for a grand less than a LP Standard. While I'm not suggesting a conspiracy of sorts, the instrument industry is full of politics and is not immune to lobbying. I really can't say this with any certainty, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if a company like Fender uses it's weight to lean on retailers. Much like the case I mentioned about the similarity between SGBs and LP's, the BB is basically a sounder PJ bass. Put a $1000 Fender against a $1000 Yamaha, and unless you're a diehard Fender fanboy, you'll probably notice how much better Yamaha's QC is. Again, I really can't prove anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were the case. If Yamaha was fraught with sales and distribution problems, why do music stores all over the world have tons of stock when it comes to Yamaha Pianos, drums, etc... When I started in the industry, there was bit more competition and less monopoly (Guitar Center in the US, Long & McQuade in Canada), and manufactures and distributors used to make similar deals with individual retailers all the time (and likely still do), eg. "you can carry our Product as long as you don't carry brand X. Or we'll give you exclusive access to our products in your city/state/province, but as a stipulation, you can't sell our competitor."

Second, In my experience. If you're in a small city or isolated region, markets are generally more traditional. What I mean by that is, a lot of players in small cities and towns tend to go for Fender/Gibson. Having worked in the industry in a small city I was always kind of surprised by how little curiosity there was for anything beyond those two brands, especially in guitar sales. This wasn't necessarily the case when it came to pedals, everyone was excited to try the latest boutique brand, made in someone's garage in the middle of nowhere. I always thought it was strange that there are so many companies who make superior quality teles to Fender, yet guys kept shelling out thousands of dollars for guitars that often had faulty N3 pickups and short circuiting S1 switches... It was only the biggest basement-collector/gear heads that expressed any interest in brands like Reverend, Suhr, Framus, G&L, or even Yamaha (when it comes to electrics). So, to a fair degree I think these retailers are making calculated decisions to stock what they know is going to sell over what's new and exciting. I remember we got Warwick basses once. They sat there for years while the same 3-tone sunburst Jazz bass sold again and again. For this, it's hard to blame the retailers. Instruments sales are down everywhere, the internet is squeezing them out, and the retail space is more monopolized by the day. They have to stock what they know is going to sell. That said, I've seen high-end Yamahas in stores, but always in large cities where there's a market for it.

Lastly, I've noticed a bunch of people say they prefer the V, T, 3ws to the current V, V, T. I have a BB1025X and have been toying with the idea of changing the setup to V, T, blend and was going to ask for advice about what kind of pot I should get to be able to have a blend knob. Ultimately it's not the end of the world, I don't mind the 3-way switch, but I've always enjoyed getting those in-between tones you can get from VVT or VVblend.

Glad to join the community.

Cheers

Just to add a few things to this...
I buy a lot of stuff at a local store here in Portugal and I get along with the owner. They've been distributors for Yamaha for a while but in a recent conversation my friend told me that they would stop doing so because of Yamaha's recent trading policies concerning retailers. He told me that for most brands they worked, they don't have a minimum value to get material for the store. And by that, he means that they can sent for 10 guitars and other stuff or they can simply send for one guitar/bass that a specific costumer asked for. But recently Yamaha has placed a minimum order value that's pretty high for a local store, as he told me (I don't know how much).
Well, if it we where talking about Fender or so, he said that they don't mind ordering around that value because the instruments will eventually sell. But for Yamaha it's difficult for the instruments to be sold at the same rate as a Fender in the same price range, so it doesn't pay for them to place a high value order and for the material to sit in the shop for years without being bought. For a local shop it simply isn't worth the investment.
And he told me this after I talked to him to place an order for a Line 6 HX Stomp. After talking to the guys in Yamaha he told me to try buying it through Thomann which I did.
So we cannot only blame the retailers for not having Yamaha basses more available because if Yamaha doesn't change this policies it will be difficult for local stores to have more of their instruments.
 

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