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New Zoom B3 has arrived!!!!

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I picked one of these up to it out and see what it can offer. Here's my quickie comments based on playing with some of the effects. I only have a Roland GR-55 for directly comparing digital multieffects against. I no longer own a GT-10B or any Line6 boxes.

* I didn't even need to open the manual. Plug it in and it instantly and intuitively works as a 3-effect box. Really easy to use.
* Tuner seems good for standard 4 string tuning, supplements the LCD with red/green LEDs which will make it really good for stage and sunlight use.
* The box is not noisy. I'm not sure where those other comments are coming from. If you have drive effects on or amp sims with the gain all the way up then you'd get hiss, that's no different than any other effect digital or otherwise. Stick the noise gate before/after it to kill that type of gain hiss/noise.
* There's no headphone jack. ***? I must have missed that in previous discussions. Serious omission IMO. Any box with amp sims need headphone jacks so you don't have to run them into an amp to hear it. I think I saw a comment of USB into a computer than headphones out of the PC, that might work.
* There's no master volume knob. But there is a Master Level in Global that's easy to access.
* Drive effects are generally poor sounding and too buzzy sounding in the highs with not enough real, thick saturation. This is fairly typical for digital drive effects. However, the Roland's overdrive is more natural/tube sounding, and generally the distortions less fake sounding. My recollection is Line6 has always been closest for modelling drive effects with a lot of drive applied to the lows/mids without the digital buzziness in the highs. Note the Zoom overdrive has no touch sensitivity and is too gainy even at 0 gain.
* The Zoom drive effects all have blend which is nice if you want that. However, some of the drive effects sound terrible without any blend. Like the overdrive which sound absolutely terrible soloing the actual overdrive effect without blend.
* Reverbs sound "cheap" without any real quality airiness compared to the effects in the Roland GR-55 I'm comparing it to.
* There's a LOT of effects in the box. It should cover your bread-n-butter modulation and delay effects as there's a bunch of phase/flange/chorus/delays to choose from.
* Some of the synth effects seemed reasonably useable with good sounds. Tracking was good as long as you have the technique. They track octave jumps pretty well, and retrigger reasonably fast but not fast enough for repetitive 8th note playing. But overall better retriggering than the Mark Bass Super Synth based on my recollection from when I owned one. With that said, I don't recall the soloed synth sounds being super deep and fat.
* There's some fun effects in this box that aren't in most others like LPF, bicrusher, BendCho (auto-whammy as far as I'm concerned), and a great keyed noise gate which can let you HEAVILY gate anything when set to Detect=GtrIn with a high threshold.

Some quick thoughts on some experimental stuff for you to try:

* Try using BendCho for portamento type sounds.
* Put a ZNR in slot 1 with Thresh=24, Detect=GtrIn, Level=Max then a full gain fuzz afterwards for something approaching a heavily gated FuzzSmile after. Maybe some crafty EQ after could make it sound genuinely good. But you do get the heavily gated sound and there's no noise/hiss. Then try sticking other effects in front or behind for more experimentation.
* I haven't played with the amp sims yet, but make sure to consider them as an EQ slot not just an amp sim. With a lot of other boxes like the BOSS GT-10B the amp sims can sound sculp better than an EQ effect. Particularly for shaving off the nasty digital high end of the drive effects.

In the next couple weeks I'll try to get a Zoom B3 page on my site with some sound clips and patches to download.
 
Excellent review "gastric"! Thank you for sharing with us! After i used my Korg Pandora PX5D on last headphones-rehearsal,and really liked the balanced level and character my bass I had to give a shot for this unit, so i can change between effects with the foot-switches. The headphones out is the L(mono) out, even when using with computer connected with USB, so you can hear your bass and anything else coming from your PC/Mac. Not feeling necessary the need of an AUX IN.
I used the B3 on rehearsal no amp just headphones, plugged in to the mixer with an XLR balanced cable and sounded great, very well balanced. Yesterday I used on gig for some compressor, overdrive, reverb, octave straight into the amp and not using amp simulation and was not bad at all! Tuner works nicely with my 6er and 5er also, both Music Man. Editing software makes life easy on this unit.
 
Ahhhh, it says "phones" under L/MONO on the back panel. But I couldn't see it from above as I had a mono cable running out from there to the GR-55. Good stuff, thanks!

Another comment regarding synths:

* There's no integrated octave shift in the monosynth.
* However, you can run monopitch after it to octave shift it -12. Blend in the sub-octave and dry to taste.
* Monosynth appears to track off direct input. So you have to put octave shifts AFTER the synth effect, not before. That's really probably the best place to put the tracking is at the input.

Try the following:

MonoSynth
* Decay=20
* Wave=Pulse
* Reso=5
MonoPitch
* Shift= -12
* Tone=3
* Bal=100

Gives a pretty deep, dark modern house type bass sound. Stick a ZNR after triggered from GtrIn to cut the sub-bass rumbles between notes.

I haven't really found the chorus to my liking yet. At least not for chorusing effected sounds like the synth. In contrast I've always loved Boss/Roland digital chorus effects for synthed modulation. The Zoom chorus does sound pretty good on clean bass sounds.
 
Ohhhhh..... MonoSynth > MonoPitch > Z-Synth = fatness

The Z-Synth looks to be a Korg G5 clone so it's a pure waveshaper instead of pitch tracker. Thus any signal in front of it gets morphed by the Z-Synth. So it can take a thin sounding synth tone in front and turn it into thick, fat, analog-like monosynth goodness.

Off to see if Zoom has Mac drivers so I can get you peeps some clips. :)
 
* Reverbs sound "cheap" without any real quality airiness compared to the effects in the Roland GR-55 I'm comparing it to.

Did you try the HD reverb? Don't you like that?
I think reverbs on this unit are the same quality of delays and modulations (I mean, some being decent, others being very good).

I found the worst part to be the pitch effects instead, those are disappointing to me. The polyphonic ones have not perfect intonation when shifting of an octave, and I can't get a good sounding ''shimmer'' patch 'cause of that :(
The mono ones seem to shift better, but they sound pretty much sterile to me (octaver included).
 
BOSS FV-500H with a TRS cable appears to work. You have to roll the trim knob on the side up just slightly to negate some dead space at the heel but otherwise it seems to sweep the full 0-100 as best I can tell with a quick check.

You can control the effect assign by pressing the TOTAL button and setting the proper destination.
 
I have bookmarked your site. Thanks for putting it out there. If and when I get better working with Web stuff, I'd like to do something similar.

Thanks, I like to share. These types of boxes with USB built in makes it silly easy to share sounds and patches. Everyone should be doing it. :)

For sounds you can share them for free via SoundCloud. Patches I don't have a super good suggestion, it'd be great if Zoom allowed us to share directly to their set somehow like Line6 does. I really don't know why EVERYONE doesn't mimic their community and patch sharing scheme.
 
Besides not having a web site (though my brother once mentioned that I could have a web site on his domain - I will ask) I don't do any recording on my computer. No need to at this time.
I am using Edit & Share to back up my patches and would be willing to put some out there if I thought they were good enough. Can email them as well.
 
The "need" is right here in these forums. It's a MUSIC forum where people mostly TALK instead of sharing sounds. :) I'm an admittedly self-taught play-by-ear amateur player. But I share my noodled clips anyway. Go back and listen to some of my early clips on my general sound clips page, they're poor sounding in most every possible way. :) USB recording right from the effect box makes it all so much better and easier.
 
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