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#2,001
Yeah, I guess I forget that youth thang :Ol :)

No I wasn't trying to start some stuff here. I was really askin'

I guess to me, I can hear the subtleties as far as guitarist when they use distortion, various amps, pedals. I guess I need turn my ear to bass distortion and their subtleties.

Don't get me wrong. I use it when I am trying to create a Jack Bruce, Chris Squire, Geddy Lee, Felix Pappalardi kinda vibe.
I've got some patches lined up on my B1on. I've just never pursued the quest of distorted tone to the point of actually setting aside a budget to obtain such a device on purpose. :D

I kinda forgot, that's a tone now (said grandpa )
Thanks for the reply!!!

I guess I'll file this under, Turn it down! Turn it DOWN! I have children sleeping here... Don't you boys know any nice songs ... :D
 
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I hear that. The James Jamerson isolated stuff is very distorted when you hear him by himself.
Same with all those prog rock guys. Keith, all the John's, Chris, Gezzer, Lemmy.
I remember I thought Jack Casady had a clear clean sound until I really listen on a better system.

But most all of that sound was just lower powered amps on 11.
Not a hard sound to get, hence maybe my somewhat aversion and non-pursuit :)
 
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escaraBAJO said:
I'm sure you will receive several answers on the subject and probably there are a lot of threads about it. Your question even comes close to one of the "no-no" questions to be asked in this subforum (look for the stickies).

However your question seems well intended so I will answer it: Different stiles of music.
Try listening to Rage Against the Machine, Tool and even Muse. There are a gazillion bands that use dirty bass as a foundation for their sound.

happy quest!!
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If you listen to isolated bass tracks of classic rock of the late 1960s to the end of the 1970s you'll also hear a lot of overdriven bass too - Small Faces, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull and many others. Even on more pop-oriented output like The Association, or classic tracks like Sugar, Sugar by The Archies. Often in a mix it's hard to really tell it's overdriven. Sometimes it seems the only person with a clean tone back then was Greg Lake.
 
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-Asdfgh- said:
If you listen to isolated bass tracks of classic rock of the late 1960s to the end of the 1970s you'll also hear a lot of overdriven bass too - Small Faces, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull and many others. Even on more pop-oriented output like The Association, or classic tracks like Sugar, Sugar by The Archies. Often in a mix it's hard to really tell it's overdriven. Sometimes it seems the only person with a clean tone back then was Greg Lake.
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Oh well, you are certainly right sir.
I was going to mention them but honestly I wasn't sure and didn't have a record on hand to confirm. Now, the question would be: did they use a pedal for that sound or just overdriven amps?
 
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escaraBAJO said:
Oh well, you are certainly right sir.
I was going to mention them but honestly I wasn't sure and didn't have a record on hand to confirm. Now, the question would be: did they use a pedal for that sound or just overdriven amps?
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I think it was one of or a combination of an amp, the first gain stage of the console or tube compressor/limiters.
 
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jimfist said:
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Nice! I think that Mark Bass amp and cab model will sound really nice for my Stick bass cleans. :)

Edit: now that I listened to the sound samples of the new patches, the Bottom Line sounds nice. So maybe a blend of the Mk Bass and that Lo EQ would be a good idea. I like a nice amount of highs in my bass tone to make sure to remind people that I'm tapping the bass and not strumming it. :D
 
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escaraBAJO said:
Oh well, you are certainly right sir.
I was going to mention them but honestly I wasn't sure and didn't have a record on hand to confirm. Now, the question would be: did they use a pedal for that sound or just overdriven amps?
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One of my uncles was a bass player on the blues scene in the 1960s, and around 1964ish (he recently died so I can't get the exact date now) he got a fuzz pedal for his bass. He may not have been the first, but certainly early, which shows the pedals may have been used at least some of the time.
 
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I dug into the synth sounds on my B1on last night (either that or my old B2 tend to live on my desk as they give me some basic sounds in a small form factor). If the B3n sounds are the same (which is likely) then I can get sufficiently usable sounds to consider thinning the herd of other units, but it's a hard thing to do! The B9 can be used as a MIDI foot controller. I've lost the box for the PoD XT, the Behringer Vamps also have some good synth sounds and the B2 is a solid unit for basic sounds. Something(s) have to go, though...
 
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-Asdfgh- said:
One of my uncles was a bass player on the blues scene in the 1960s, and around 1964ish (he recently died so I can't get the exact date now) he got a fuzz pedal for his bass. He may not have been the first, but certainly early, which shows the pedals may have been used at least some of the time.
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Thanks! Is there a History of Pedals thread around? That would be very interesting to read. Zoom has a part on it certainly. My first pedal was a Zoom 3000B which died from playing for years in a humid basement. I still have it and I still miss it.
 
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kasbrey said:
Concerning the update :thumbsup:

The Minimark takes up one slot and is basically a VPF/VLE emulator.
The LoEQ seems to do the HPF job well (despite my initial reservations of only -12 db of depth)

The LMT76 was updated during the process. The release parameter seems to work properly now?
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It seems that the gain parameter on the LoEq does nothing when in HPF mode. Which explains that.
 
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