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Newbie with 2 questions

I plan to buy a short scale bas and teach myself to play it. Is that nutty? As such I have 2 questions:
1. What are the relative merits and demerits of using round, flat, or tape strings?
2. I am mystified by what I should do with my picking fingers. Having wTched many videos, it seems the pinkie is rarely if ever used. But is there a rules based system for which finger should strike which string? And does that change when striking from high to low strings vs low to high? Should double fingers be used sometimes as a rule or are there no rules? Is there some video based instruction that solves this mystery?
Thank you for your help.
 
Some may try to help here but it is best to go online lots of free beginners lessons best to be able to see not just be told how

Even better if you can get one on one lessons at least the first few months

For now I would just use strings that come with Bass you choose until you get some time in
developing technique

Also fingers are going to be sore for awhile also might want to try pick but learn one at a time
 
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Nothing beats a teacher, even if it's just a handful of lessons early on to develop good practice habits and technique. It's way easier to learn it now than have to fix bad habits down the road!

Very generally speaking, roundwound strings are most common and associated with modern contemporary bass tone. Flatwound strings are duller and thumpier, used more to mimic the sound of an upright bass, which is less defined. Generally, I think it's safest to start with roundwound strings to learn on and you can always experiment with other types down the road, but rounds are versatile and you can do anything on them, while there are some techniques and approaches that really don't work well on flats.

If you can't get a teacher then watch some beginner lesson videos. There are some pretty basic techniques to work on, primarily alternating between your first and second finger on the plucking hand, but a teacher or video guide will explain it far better than text.

Good luck!
 
You’ll may get blisters but these will become callouses fairly soon. Depending on the bass, most will rest their right thumb on one of their bass’ pickups and pluck with index and middle fingers. Dont worry about your strings until you learn to play a little. Unless they’re rusty or missing.
 
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As folk have said, a few in-person lessons is a great way to start (that’s how I started).

On plucking - you’ll see a thousand different ways people do it. And there are plenty of valid approaches. I suggest you get comfortable early on plucking with index, middle and ring finger - on every string.
But don’t worry - the bass legend James Jamerson did just fine only using his index finger (somehow!).

Scott’s Bass Lessons has good ‘players pathway’ courses and they have a beginner course which is really good value (in my opinion).

Enjoy!!
 
1. What are the relative merits and demerits of using round, flat, or tape strings?
Round: brighter more aggressive sound, often sounds better solo or in smaller ensembles, more modern sound, more metal
Flat: darker more "thumpy" sound, often sounds better in larger ensembles, more old school sound, more groove
Tape: no experience
2. I am mystified by what I should do with my picking fingers.
the basics should be alternating index and middle, practice starting on index, and also starting on middle.
the long term goal should be learning all techniques: pick, 3 finger etc. , and choosing the technique based on the sound desired for the material.
but master basics first
 
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Welcome to Talkbass.

There’s nothing wrong with teaching yourself from scratch, but it will take longer. Getting some 1-on-1 instruction will give you a quick start and a foundation to build on. Set yourself up for success. :thumbsup:

If you’re determined to do it all on your own, youtube is a great resource, but don’t overlook just playing along with recorded music by ear. (It’s actually really good for you to do that.)

Whichever way you go, expect to make a zillion mistakes. That’s the process. Stick with it, be persistent, get frustrated, take breaks, come back and keep at it, and you will get there.
 
I plan to buy a short scale bas and teach myself to play it. Is that nutty? As such I have 2 questions:
1. What are the relative merits and demerits of using round, flat, or tape strings?
2. I am mystified by what I should do with my picking fingers. Having wTched many videos, it seems the pinkie is rarely if ever used. But is there a rules based system for which finger should strike which string? And does that change when striking from high to low strings vs low to high? Should double fingers be used sometimes as a rule or are there no rules? Is there some video based instruction that solves this mystery?
Thank you for your help.
Welcome to bass! I am myself a newbie of about 3 years, self-taught but coming from guitar (where I had teachers for almost 5 years).

I won't comment on strings because I only ever used roundwounds, but I can comment on the rest.

I recommend not buying your first bass online at random but go to a music shop and try out 3-4 basses of different type in your price range, new or second hand. Don't worry too much about the sound of your first bass (unless it's clearly bad). Try the basses standing up, and don't buy one with neck dive. Buy the one that feels most comfortable for your left hand especially! Doing so should make it easier for you to start.

Being self-taught requires a certain level of awareness. There is an immense amount of free material and instructions available to learn everything in music, the difficulty is to (a) sort out what it's beneficial for you in the present and avoid dispersing on too many things, (b) be self-critical and self-aware enough to understand when you are doing something wrong and when you can move on vs when you need to still focus on something. That's possible but if it doesn't work then a good teacher will make a huge difference.

On the topic of which fingers to use, there are no rules: there are professionals who used 1 finger and others who used 5. I guess most bassists use 2 (index and middle) to be able to comfortably play at moderate-high speeds. As a newbie, you don't have to play at high speeds yet though, so you can stick to one finger until you encounter songs that clearly require two. My guess however is that it will be only a matter of weeks until you want to :)

You will also soon learn the difference between alternate picking and rake. The latter is when you use the same finger on consecutive notes moving from higher to lower strings (normally not done viceversa unless you want to use the thumb). Generally, the first is a safe method to play consistently, while the second is limited but may feel more natural when applicable. But get your bass first before diving into technique options :)
 
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There's no RULES, but most people gravitate towards Labella Flats for short scales. While it's not a requirement, they sure do sound good.

Follow the rules while you are learning and probably for the first year or so. After a while my hands/fingers just took over. The finger that is closest to the next note is which one plays it. But I let my fingers just figure it out on their own now. If I get to a difficult passage, I'll stop and figure it out (finger by finger) and that typically just means that at certain spots I wanna be sure to have shifted my hand and start out with certain fingers. But having all the initial training is what enables you the capability to do this. And although it's not called upon very often, I will use my pinky from time to time. Mostly for octaves, but it's already busy MUTING strings (especially with a pick). Even though most muting is done with my thumb. So that hand is busy - all fingers employed.
 
Definitely get a few in-person lessons so you learn fundamentals, like posture, where to position the bass, how to properly position your wrist and fingers, and the basics of how to fret and pluck. If you don't learn those things upfront everything else you do downstream will either be sub par or can even lead to injury. Do not worry about string types, or what scale of bass to choose, until you get past those fundamentals. If you take your lessons from a music store they can provide you with a loaner instrument, just for your lessons. If you do choose to buy a bass first, which I do not advise, you would be best served with a relatively simple instrument like a budget-level P-bass, standard 34" scale. Vast majority of new instruments will come with round wounds as their standard strings.
 
On my fretless' I use flats. All others I use rounds. It will become personal choice over time. Technically, whatever you chose bass wise should be comfortable. Important, do yourself a favor, have whatever bass you choose setup properly for you!! Nothing worse than trying to learn or play a bad or no setup. That will discourage you immediately and the bass will just set in the corner.
 
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Welcome to our world!

You'll likely find that playing bass guitar is relatively easy, especially when getting started, and the advice thus far in this thread is very good.

To this I'll add that you should also learn the basics of music theory as early as possible (keys, scales, arpegios, chords). It's not just how well you can play, what you play in the role of being a bass player is something that needs to be learned as well.

I'd also advise you to start playing with other musicians as soon as possible. Key aspects of your playing will be ingrained better and quicker, plus it's the bset way to develop the most important thing in music, your ear.
 
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I plan to buy a short scale bas and teach myself to play it. Is that nutty? As such I have 2 questions:
1. What are the relative merits and demerits of using round, flat, or tape strings?
2. I am mystified by what I should do with my picking fingers. Having wTched many videos, it seems the pinkie is rarely if ever used. But is there a rules based system for which finger should strike which string? And does that change when striking from high to low strings vs low to high? Should double fingers be used sometimes as a rule or are there no rules? Is there some video based instruction that solves this mystery?
Thank you for your help.
Flatwounds are very popular, but I'd suggest trying out some black tapewounds...D'Addario makes a short-scale set. Smooth as silk, perfect tension, amazing tone, and they look good, too.
As for the pinky rarely being used, not necessarily...flatwounds and tapewounds will definitely help when using your pinky.
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