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NFL 2024-2025

#282
The Mariners are in full fade mode, so football is getting here just in time. I don't have high hopes for either the Seahawks or the Browns, so it's going to be a season of taking what comes and enjoying wins without getting too wound up about losses.

The Bears could actually have an offense with a quarterback. That means that the apocalypse is upon us and the world will cease to exist. No, actually it doesn't. The world will continue to exist so long as Tomlin is coaching the Steelers, and we all know that's forever.
 
#286
Rocket Queen said:
So, siding with the billionaires over the millionaires?
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If expecting this fella to honor the final two years of a contract he willingly signed is siding with the billionaires, then yes.
The alternative to this stunt he is pulling now is to be a man of his word and go to work. It isn't just this fella, it's all over the league. It just so happens to be a player from the Bengals who have a nice long history of chumps on their roster.

-Mike
 
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MJ5150 said:
If expecting this fella to honor the final two years of a contract he willingly signed is siding with the billionaires, then yes.
The alternative to this stunt he is pulling now is to be a man of his word and go to work. It isn't just this fella, it's all over the league. It just so happens to be a player from the Bengals who have a nice long history of chumps on their roster.

-Mike
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I would love to see all performance-based contracts in the NFL. You want a big contract next year, do something special this year. Too many of these guys maneuver for the big contract to be set for life, then put it on cruise control.
 
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#290
MJ5150 said:
If expecting this fella to honor the final two years of a contract he willingly signed is siding with the billionaires, then yes.
The alternative to this stunt he is pulling now is to be a man of his word and go to work. It isn't just this fella, it's all over the league. It just so happens to be a player from the Bengals who have a nice long history of chumps on their roster.

-Mike
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With all respect, "willingly signed" is not entirely accurate. Chase was drafted by the Bengals and he was subject to the rookie wage scale. If there were no NFL draft (which may legally be a restraint of trade, but that's another discussion), and he could be recruited, as high school athletes can, then he almost certainly would have gotten a much bigger rookie contract.

And Chase is playing under his contract this year, even though he was promised an extension and is not getting it.

gln1955 said:
I would love to see all performance-based contracts in the NFL. You want a big contract next year, do something special this year. Too many of these guys maneuver for the big contract to be set for life, then put it on cruise control.
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That's exactly the point: extensions are contracts based on past performance. They are recognition that a player has vastly exceeded expectations, and that, relative to his currrent contract, he is vastly underpaid. The very low cap on rookie contracts makes this situation especially likely.
 
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#291
On another note, there won't be more anticipation for a game this year than when Denver plays the Steelers. The whole city is waiting for Wilson to start and get a serious smackdown. If that fails, there will be no joy in Denvermudville.

The fact that Wilson hurt his calf while grandstanding pushing a sled around makes it worse. We learned here that the guy is a walking self-promo billboard. A QB pushing a sled?? How silly is that?
 
#292
Rocket Queen said:
With all respect, "willingly signed" is not entirely accurate. Chase was drafted by the Bengals and he was subject to the rookie wage scale. If there were no NFL draft (which may legally be a restraint of trade, but that's another discussion), and he could be recruited, as high school athletes can, then he almost certainly would have gotten a much bigger rookie contract.

And Chase is playing under his contract this year, even though he was promised an extension and is not getting it.



That's exactly the point: extensions are contracts based on past performance. They are recognition that a player has vastly exceeded expectations, and that, relative to his currrent contract, he is vastly underpaid. The very low cap on rookie contracts makes this situation especially likely.
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Good job missing the point of both those posts.
 
#293
Pilgrim said:
On another note, there won't be more anticipation for a game this year than when Denver plays the Steelers. The whole city is waiting for Wilson to start and get a serious smackdown. If that fails, there will be no joy in Denvermudville.

The fact that Wilson hurt his calf while grandstanding pushing a sled around makes it worse. We learned here that the guy is a walking self-promo billboard. A QB pushing a sled?? How silly is that?
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HE would have been safer benching with the O-line in the weight room, then he would have only risked a shoulder or arm injury.

I wanted to believe in the guy returning to his early career success, but I'm happy he's moved on to break hearts in P-burg.
 
#294
Pilgrim said:
On another note, there won't be more anticipation for a game this year than when Denver plays the Steelers. The whole city is waiting for Wilson to start and get a serious smackdown. If that fails, there will be no joy in Denvermudville.

The fact that Wilson hurt his calf while grandstanding pushing a sled around makes it worse. We learned here that the guy is a walking self-promo billboard. A QB pushing a sled?? How silly is that?
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The Steelers win no matter the final score of that game since Denver is paying Wilson's salary. They either end up paying the guy who beat them or they beat the guy and pay him along the way.

-Mike
 
#299
gln1955 said:
I would love to see all performance-based contracts in the NFL. You want a big contract next year, do something special this year. Too many of these guys maneuver for the big contract to be set for life, then put it on cruise control.
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I think it's less about guys going on cruise control than teams rewarding older players for past performance when they were arguably underpaid on their prior contract.

Happens in every sport. The difference in the NFL is that contracts are almost never fully guaranteed. Many guys who get seriously hurt can be unceremoniously cut.

At any rate, Chase played today.
 
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#300
Miami had to come back from a 14-0 deficit, but they pulled out the win when the offense finally got going. I'll take it against a potentially decent team like the Jags.


Insane stat of the day. The Bears have lots of weapons, but their offensive line stinks. Fortunately, they got a pick six and returned a blocked punt for a TD (Mr. Simone Biles on the return, btw).
 
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