NHL Playoffs!

[teedub]

I probably still will support and even go to games, but I just do not like what I see from the fans. It’s becoming less and less enjoyable. Eh playing the game is much more fun anyway.

Just trying to give you a 3rd party perpective.

(Moose win Game 6! Game 7 tomorrow night!)

 

[kserg]

Just trying to give you a 3rd party perpective.

(Moose win Game 6! Game 7 tomorrow night!)

Congrads, who are they playing this round?

 

[teedub]

Grand Rapids Griffins, finished 1st in the AHL, affiliated with the Red Wings (doesn't help that the Wings went out in the first round).

Good game tonight, but our All-Star goalie (Wade Flaherty) went out with an injury in the first period. Our backup did very well, but it'd be nice to see Wade in net tomorrow for Game 7.

This is the second round right now, same-ish sched as the NHL.

Go Moose!!!

 

[heroincredible]

I remember Flaherty. Good solid goalie.

As to the comment about underdogs...wasn't last playoffs enough? Flames were an underdog and made it to the finals(low budget). Tampa won it(also low budget) and was for some reason considered an underdog even though they were 3 points back of the Wings for top spot in the league.

I'm not jumping on the Oilers bandwagon, but if the fans don't boo the American anthem, I'll have gained a new respect for the Oil. Until we kick their ass again All kidding aside, it would be nice to see a Canadian team win the Cup. If its gotta be Edmonton, yea, thats ok. Roli used to be a Flame(I still have his rookie card I think). My favourite goalies growing up were Roli, Trevor Kidd, and Rick Tabaracci(I think its NHL99 where they have Doug Weight scoring on him about 15 seconds into the game during the video in the beginning).

And while yea, hockey is more of a novelty in the southern states, the fans aren't the reason the teams shouldn't be there. Quite simply, its the ice. Its tough to maintain good ice in warm climates, so the poor ice takes away from the skating/stick handling abilities, so the players aren't playing to the best of their abilities(at least I think so).

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

And while yea, hockey is more of a novelty in the southern states, the fans aren't the reason the teams shouldn't be there. Quite simply, its the ice. Its tough to maintain good ice in warm climates, so the poor ice takes away from the skating/stick handling abilities, so the players aren't playing to the best of their abilities(at least I think so).

Humidity is bad for ice. In warm, humid climates, the buildings need massive amounts of AC just to have decent ice. I went to a minor league Long Beach Ice Dogs game a few years ago in the aging Long Beach Arena. The AC was just inadequate for the building and audience; after each resurfacing there were wet, slushy spots on the ice even 10 minutes into the period. It really slowed down the action.

 

[heroincredible]

Humidity is bad for ice. In warm, humid climates, the buildings need massive amounts of AC just to have decent ice. I went to a minor league Long Beach Ice Dogs game a few years ago in the aging Long Beach Arena. The AC was just inadequate for the building and audience; after each resurfacing there were wet, slushy spots on the ice even 10 minutes into the period. It really slowed down the action.

Its not just the AC. You can crank the AC and the only result might be that the audience gets colder and doesn't help the ice much.

And kudos to Oilers fans for cheering during the US anthem. And then singing the Canadian anthem really really loud

 

[kserg]

Humidity is bad for ice. In warm, humid climates, the buildings need massive amounts of AC just to have decent ice. I went to a minor league Long Beach Ice Dogs game a few years ago in the aging Long Beach Arena. The AC was just inadequate for the building and audience; after each resurfacing there were wet, slushy spots on the ice even 10 minutes into the period. It really slowed down the action.

Well that is the reason why I to this point thought San Jose should have a team. San Jose is not typical "south" climate. Ice here is generally pretty good, only time you have slushy ice here is in middle of July when it’s really hot. But typically it’s not that hot here and in the winter and pretty much anytime besides late July/August ice is in a pretty good condition. I’ve also played in shark tank, it’s not bad.

For example: right now in Edmonton its 82F/28C ...in San Jose it's 73F 12C and in place like... Phoenix its 100F 38C

However I have to say again I enjoyed going to shark games much more when they were not that good or hyped up. Now it’s just a bunch of idiots going there who generally don’t care/know anything about hockey.

I think from now on I will go with this… if city has less then 4 (or any reasonable number) ice rings for public to play hockey in they can have a team as enough people play/care about hockey… if not then no… people don’t care enough about hockey in your town… no hockey team for you.

Sharks playing right now...

 

[teedub]

The Moose absolutely blew it last night. They were up 4-1 with 20 minutes remaining, and fashioned a truly historical Game 7 collapse. I felt sick to my stomach when the Griffins scored the tying goal with 4 min left, and the winning goal with 2 mins left.

The same defensive pairing was in the ice for EACH of the 4 goals. Truly embarrassing.

One period to go, just play solid defense and protect that lead..........but no. No way.

 

[heroincredible]

Sorry to hear that teedub.

And since you brought up third period collapses...back when my girlfriends dad played hockey, he was part of this crazy game. End of first period, they are down 2-1. After 2, its tied 3-3. Third period...his team scored 16 goals. I saw a video of it. It was insane.

 

[Jazzin']

Go Oilers!

 

[kserg]

Sharks are out... that was horrible playing by them... past 4 games were very bad... looked like a midget league vs. all stars.

 

[Phil Mastro]

On the fans... It's sickening. I defended the idea that San Jose is not part of teams that should not be in NHL (others being ducks, kings, Atlanta, Florida teams etc). But fans here are starting to prove me otherwise. I think people are right when they say that NHL should only be where hockey is played on large scale.

Montréal fans have a tendency to sing the canadian anthem or something else during the american one. I'm ashamed of it. Then "real fans" tell me that I'm "not a hardcore fan", or I "don't support my team" or whatever. F*** that, I don't want to be associated with that kind of crap. They also cheer gleefully to fights, which I abhore.
Obviously, there is no way in hell the Canadians are leaving. Hockey is way too big here for us to lose our team. Which is fine, but I'd still like to see the fans be a bit more respectful.

Good game just now, you gotta admit kserg, the Oilers put in a LOT of heart and effort. Those were nice goals. The Sharks' power play really sucked though.

 

[kserg]

Montréal fans have a tendency to sing the canadian anthem or something else during the american one. I'm ashamed of it. Then "real fans" tell me that I'm "not a hardcore fan", or I "don't support my team" or whatever. F*** that, I don't want to be associated with that kind of crap. They also cheer gleefully to fights, which I abhore.
Obviously, there is no way in hell the Canadians are leaving. Hockey is way too big here for us to lose our team. Which is fine, but I'd still like to see the fans be a bit more respectful.

Good game just now, you gotta admit kserg, the Oilers put in a LOT of heart and effort. Those were nice goals. The Sharks' power play really sucked though.

Oh yeah, Oilers looked great...

I guess every team has its bunch of a-holes... Oh well... our fans are not the worse I guess, as there are always leafs fan... Just joking, leafs fans are like ******** children, and who doesn’t love those.

 

[JimK]

Fearless Prediction x-
Eastern team takes the Cup!

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

Its not just the AC. You can crank the AC and the only result might be that the audience gets colder and doesn't help the ice much.

And kudos to Oilers fans for cheering during the US anthem. And then singing the Canadian anthem really really loud

Properly done AC also removes moisture from the air, which would cause the ice surface to develop relatively soft and sticky film. The old Boston Garden didn't have AC, so in many games, particularly in the late part of the season and the playoffs, fog would develop over the ice, and players often skated around in circles during breaks to help circulate the air and dissipate the mist.

The Hartford Civic Center had bad ice after it was rebuilt (after the 1978 roof collapse). I remember being at one game in that first season after reopening where the ice was deteriorating in some areas down to the paint layer, and there were some streaks and smears from the blue lines and faceoff dots. That was embarassing. They had just pulled the floor up (I don't remember if the floor had been for a concert or a basketball game) some hours before the game. The ammonia system in the ice floor apparently was going full tilt but that wasn't enough. One of the improvements made in the arena to improve the ice was increased AC.

Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim had ice problems in its first few years, so they hired a consultant--I think he was the ice czar in Edmonton, IIRC--to solve the problem. The biggest fix was to seriously beef up the AC to reduce the humidity in the building. You may or may not know that Orange County, California, is already not very humid even though it's next to the ocean--it's certainly not like Florida, anyway. It's quite a bit cooler at Ducks games in recent years than it used to be. Some would say that might be due to fewer people in the building.

Rinks in cold, dry climates have an easier job making good ice. Warm and dry, not as easy but still feasible. Warm and humid … yuk.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

I think from now on I will go with this… if city has less then 4 (or any reasonable number) ice rings for public to play hockey in they can have a team as enough people play/care about hockey… if not then no… people don’t care enough about hockey in your town… no hockey team for you.

Sharks playing right now...

In some wintry areas locals can also play on ponds … that's what I did in my younger days, anyway.

Pond hockey has a different discipline to it; if you miss a pass or shoot wide, you have to go chase down the puck.

 

[teedub]

Pond hockey has a different discipline to it; if you miss a pass or shoot wide, you have to go chase down the puck.

Exactly! And no slap shots, because then you have to dig the puck out of the snow bank, or chase it down the river.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

Exactly! And no slap shots, because then you have to dig the puck out of the snow bank, or chase it down the river.

Not to mention the risk of killing the goalie.

 

[teedub]

Not to mention the risk of killing the goalie.

LOL! They're a HEARTY bunch.

 

[kserg]

In some wintry areas locals can also play on ponds … that's what I did in my younger days, anyway.

Pond hockey has a different discipline to it; if you miss a pass or shoot wide, you have to go chase down the puck.

hehe, growing up that was the only thing we had, well no we also had streets that were icy...