No, Fender. Stop it.

[socialleper]

Before polishing your barb too much, yes CDs have fallen to be more or less equal with vinyl, but vinyl's numbers have never come anywhere near what CDs were at 5 years ago. Both are being replaced by digital formats.

To tie this back to the OP, vinyl, like Fender, is an anachronistic beast that refuses to die, not because of its own merits, but because of people's clinging to a mythologized past.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Before polishing your barb too much, yes CDs have fallen to be more or less equal with vinyl, but vinyl's numbers have never come anywhere near what CDs were at 5 years ago. Both are being replaced by digital formats.

To tie this back to the OP, vinyl, like Fender, is an anachronistic beast that refuses to die, not because of its own merits, but because of people's clinging to a mythologized past.

I have fed the phrase "polishing your barb" into the translation matrix but it produces no result.

Where CD vs vinyl numbers are concerned there are a couple of very relevant factors - price of technology and population levels. Adjust CD sales against the exponential post-war population increase and you will see that to accurately equate vinyl sales in the 60s to CD sales in the 90s you have to factor in a consumer population expansion from 3 billion to 5.3 billion. and then from the 90s to now for download sales the population factor goes from 5.3 billion to near 8 billion, plus the far lower price of technology and media. It's not just a simple sales quantity equation.

 

[WillyW]

This may be my inner curmudgeon coming out but better albums were made during the vinyl age than the cd age.

 

[frankie5string]

Scurry on now, wanker.
This post brought to you by 'Merican Bourbon.

Reminds me of that time an American behind me in line at a beer-line at Epcot called me a "Twaught" and believed it had to be pronounced that way because it sounded more British that way. The Brit behind the counter corrected him and he still didn't believe it.

 

[Spectrum]

On the other side of that, friends of mine that are all into vinyl say that pressings and masters can go sideways. One pressing will be good, and another will be awful. Again, a drawback of such a finicky medium.

I once bought a picture disk of Tangerine Dream's Rubycon album. Took it home and the music on it was Genesis' Selling England by the Pound. WTH?

After some research I found that TD and Genesis were each reissuing these two classic albums on picture vinyl, and the record factory mixed them up and printed each album with the other's music. So I searched out a copy of the Genesis picture disk and now I have both albums, each with the other's tracks on it. Fortunately there is nothing wrong with the audio itself.

Kind of cool to have the two of them. Someday when they get sold I hope they stay together as a set. Like having a coin that got stamped wrong.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

Nope. Not at all. I definitely didn't quote two of your messages and say "Whelp, we know who the snob is..."

What a snobby thing to say. "are you referring to me?" As if I would be referring to anyone else.

Here's something else that's obvious- England hasn't been a world power since Nov 1st, 1940- the day after the Battle of Britain (Which was the greatest air war victory in history).

Scurry on now, wanker.

This post brought to you by 'Merican Bourbon.

Ok so now you've called me a snob again, and then a wanker. You're a real charmer, aren't you?

I'm not interested in responding to your anti-English bigotry, but I sympathise with the character defects that make you such an obnoxious person.

Perhaps you should get some counselling for your alcohol addiction.

 

[bcouper]

Where are the tuners ?

 

[RichterScale]

Perhaps you should get some counselling for your alcohol addiction

That post was too articulate to blame on booze. I come from a long line of drunks and grew up around it. The booze is a crutch and something to blame when people get a glimpse of what a crappy person you are.
That comment was irrelevant and certainly not funny, if that's the excuse.
There's a lot more going on with whatever that was, than booze or being obnoxious. But not something worth unpacking in a turntable thread. Hopefully that person was banned.

 

[RichterScale]

Since we're on the subject, I have this for sale.
$2499.99.
This week only.
View attachment 4413849

Also, lowered the price.
$1999.99.
This week only.

 

[gtmalone]

With an SCA-35 isn’t it?

PAS3 preamp, ST70 power amp, A25 speakers, Pioneer turntable

 

[kbakerde]

$3500 retail according to mofi's website.

I was unsure of the price, that is way too high. It's basically a U-Turn Audio deck for literally 10x the money.

 

[deff]

I was unsure of the price, that is way too high. It's basically a U-Turn Audio deck for literally 10x the money.

Thank you.

 

[BargeOn]

I guess Fender really turned the tables on us this time.

 

[Patrice B]

PAS3 preamp, ST70 power amp, A25 speakers, Pioneer turntable

Ah, the PAS3 looks similar to the integrated. Lucky you, the mythical ST70! Missed it on the lower shelf .

 

[gtmalone]

Ah, the PAS3 looks similar to the integrated. Lucky you, the mythical ST70! Missed it on the lower shelf .

More if you are interested:
Dynaco preamp
Dynaco power amp

 

[Patrice B]

More if you are interested:
Dynaco preamp
Dynaco power amp

I just have one Dynaco specimen (in fact, four but that’s a long story): the FM-3. I’ve never had the chance to snag an ST-70 when they were still affordable.

Some exemplars of Scott, Fisher, Eico, Harman Kardon, Heathkit, Stromberg Carlson, Trio, Sherwood and a lot of German radios and Electrohome (Canadian brand) console pulls… Tube addict, hifi and MI!

 

[gtmalone]

I just have one Dynaco specimen (in fact, four but that’s a long story): the FM-3. I’ve never had the chance to snag an ST-70 when they were still affordable.

Some exemplars of Scott, Fisher, Eico, Harman Kardon, Heathkit, Stromberg Carlson, Trio, Sherwood and a lot of German radios and Electrohome (Canadian brand) console pulls… Tube addict, hifi and MI!

I like the tube stuff, too, and it's easy to work on. I scored a Pioneer SX-535 from a friend for free. His dad bought it new. Saw it sitting around and told him the SX receivers are desirable and have value. He said I could have it. I said again, the SX receivers are desirable and have value. He said take it. I said OKAY! Cleaned out the dust, squirted Deoxit in the controls. Looks almost brand new and sounds great!

 

[Patrice B]

I like the tube stuff, too, and it's easy to work on. I scored a Pioneer SX-535 from a friend for free. His dad bought it new. Saw it sitting around and told him the SX receivers are desirable and have value. He said I could have it. I said again, the SX receivers are desirable and have value. He said take it. I said OKAY! Cleaned out the dust, squirted Deoxit in the controls. Looks almost brand new and sounds great!

SX535, isn’t it Solid State? Sure you don’t mean SX34 tubed?

Anyway, turntable through magnetic tube phono stage is glorious…

 

[4andnomore]

Oh, is there a Squier turntable coming out from Crosley?

Seriously, really? I don't much keep up with such things.

 

[brianrost]

I found that TD and Genesis were each reissuing these two classic albums on picture vinyl, and the record factory mixed them up and printed each album with the other's music.

One of my more fun experiences returning an album was Pink Floyd's "Ummagumma". That's a 2 LP set, one LP live and one studio. I got a copy with both LPs the same, but the second LP had the correct label for the studio LP. Since the number of tracks on each LP were different, it was obvious by looking at them that the two LPs were identical but the the salesman wouldn't take my word for it. He had to play it for about ten minutes needle dropping through the long jams before he was willing to agree that both LPs were the same!!!!

A decade later I had the exact same problem with a James Brown live set, both LPs were the same. The store owner opened another copy to see if it was OK and sure enough her entire shipment from the label was incorrectly pressed.

My copy of Love's "Da Capo" is marked mono on the cover but came with a stereo LP inside.