Noble Amps Preamp

[Ian Trusheim]

Charlie Hunter recently posted a clip, on Instagram, playing a 62 Fender Musicmaster. SOOO GOOD.

I decided to lay down some keys and synth as well as some bass. My good friend played drums and edited the whole thing.

1969 Fender Precision Bass with Labella Flats 45-105 into the NOBLE!

 

[Lasse Vuorsola]

A little solo bass arrangement with my G&L L2000 and my Noble:

 

[MObasshead]

There’s one for sale in the classifieds if anyone is looking. I’m not affiliated btw just throwing out a heads up.

 

[corsicangroove]

Hi there , I want to add an eq to adjust the mid to my noble , I was thinking about the Darkglass harmonic booster or the MXR Thump .
Someone have testing this setup ?

 

[pfschim]

Hi there , I want to add an eq to adjust the mid to my noble , I was thinking about the Darkglass harmonic booster or the MXR Thump .
Someone have testing this setup ?

FWIW, I run my Noble DI into the front end of either a Mesa Walkabout or WD800. I set the EQ on the amps pretty flat and use the wonderful Mesa passive mid control to add or cut mids as needed. Works really well.

No experience with the Darkglass box you mention. Also keep in mind that with the Noble Bass and Treble controls set at the same point, they do have some cut at around 700hz, but if you move them apart (i.e. Bass at 9:00, Treble at 1:00) that cut is very reduced, so the mids are not cut.

 

[Chris Fitzgerald]

This thread is too big to read the entire thing, but I was wondering: Has anyone used the Noble as an insert into a recording channel where the primary signal comes from a mic? I was recording today on DB and wondering about this. It seems like it might be a way to potentially upgrade an already excellent preamp. It would be a fun experiment, but I've never done anything like this before and not quite sure how to go about it.

 

[Admiral Akbar]

Chris - do you mean like running the Noble after a mic pre-amp?

I think it would sound fantastic.

 

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Chris - do you mean like running the Noble after a mic pre-amp?

I think it would sound fantastic.

Sort of. I mean inserting it into the preamp chain of an audio interface channel. I’m not quite sure how to do it and what the gain staging issues might be, but it sounds like it might be an interesting option.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

This thread is too big to read the entire thing, but I was wondering: Has anyone used the Noble as an insert into a recording channel where the primary signal comes from a mic? I was recording today on DB and wondering about this. It seems like it might be a way to potentially upgrade an already excellent preamp. It would be a fun experiment, but I've never done anything like this before and not quite sure how to go about it.

While it doesn't use the insert approach, I get the same benefit for mic or pickup or both with this setup. It's good for live (via the quarter inch jack out) or recording (XLR out) of the Noble.

 

[ericsmith]

While it doesn't use the insert approach, I get the same benefit for mic or pickup or both with this setup. It's good for live (via the quarter inch jack out) or recording (XLR out) of the Noble.

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I've thought about this!
Do you run the Noble flat after the Headway?

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

I've thought about this!
Do you run the Noble flat after the Headway?

It’s for double bass (mainly) so yes.

 

[ericsmith]

It’s for double bass (mainly) so yes.

I've used the Noble for upright aswell but just straight into it. I'll have to try this too!

 

[pfschim]

Sort of. I mean inserting it into the preamp chain of an audio interface channel. I’m not quite sure how to do it and what the gain staging issues might be, but it sounds like it might be an interesting option.

can you expand your question/statement a bit ? I'm a pretty basic home recording guy when it comes to more complicated signal path routing, sidechaining etc besides just going into the input on my Focusrite 18i8. I also happen to have a Noble and so am interested in what your getting at here.

 

[Chris Fitzgerald]

Some recording preamps/interfaces have inserts in the channels that allow for the signal to be routed through external gear as part of the overall signal before it goes to the converter. One common usage of the inserts is for a limiter, which allows for a hotter recorded signal before clipping, and if the limiter is set right, basically prevents clipping. I was wondering if anyone had tried using their Noble as an insert in an attempt to give the recorded Mic sound a tube flavor.

Sadly, I don't think the Focusrite 1818 has inserts on the preamp circuits.

 

[Chace90]

Some recording preamps/interfaces have inserts in the channels that allow for the signal to be routed through external gear as part of the overall signal before it goes to the converter. One common usage of the inserts is for a limiter, which allows for a hotter recorded signal before clipping, and if the limiter is set right, basically prevents clipping. I was wondering if anyone had tried using their Noble as an insert in an attempt to give the recorded Mic sound a tube flavor.

Sadly, I don't think the Focusrite 1818 has inserts on the preamp circuits.

Haven't tried this personally, but I think it's a great idea. Could probably also be accomplished using a reamp box too. Don't have inserts on my interface, so I'm unsure if the input/output level matching would work or not.

 

[pfschim]

Some recording preamps/interfaces have inserts in the channels that allow for the signal to be routed through external gear as part of the overall signal before it goes to the converter. One common usage of the inserts is for a limiter, which allows for a hotter recorded signal before clipping, and if the limiter is set right, basically prevents clipping. I was wondering if anyone had tried using their Noble as an insert in an attempt to give the recorded Mic sound a tube flavor.

Sadly, I don't think the Focusrite 1818 has inserts on the preamp circuits.

yep, no inserts on the 18i8. oh well.

 

[Sam Dingle]

hey so i got some questions after reading the thread over a few days.

I'm looking for a DI and obviously this one is one of the recommended ones everyone talks about and I really like what I hear from it. I'm wondering a few things about the Noble and also learning WHY a DI is good but here are some questions:

this is a great thing to use when going direct for recording. I can plug my bass into this and then this into my computer/logic and get a more "controlled" sound that way correct?

Live a sound guy could plug into this and get my sound through the house and my amp sound would just be for me and that cats on stage

I use an aguilar Tone hammer 500 and SL112 cab. will running a Noble between my bass and my amp setup matter, have an affect on the sound? would there be a way to make the noble sound be more prominant and make the amp really just be an on stage speaker? I'm a little confused on that cuz i'm seeing some people use this and the rest of their pedal board as a way to carry their "sound" around to different places and not have to worry about what amp they're using. how true is this?

i'm sure i'll have more questions but thanks

 

[hennessybass]

this is a great thing to use when going direct for recording. I can plug my bass into this and then this into my computer/logic and get a more "controlled" sound that way correct?

Yes. Not sure about the "controlled" sound, but yes. It's a preamp and can be used for recording in front of what ever interface you are using. If you use the XLR out, you have access to the 2.5 band EQ to shape your sound before it hits the interface. If you use the 1/4 out, you have control over the gain and EQ to shape your sound before it hits the recording interface.

Live a sound guy could plug into this and get my sound through the house and my amp sound would just be for me and that cats on stage

I use an aguilar Tone hammer 500 and SL112 cab. will running a Noble between my bass and my amp setup matter, have an affect on the sound?

Yes to the first one. The XLR out is a fixed volume, so the sound guy would get your signal with whatever EQ you have going on the Noble.

Yes to the second one -- IF you dial the knobs on the Noble. Using the 1/4" to go to your amp the volume on the Noble comes into play.

You can get a great basic tone out of the Noble, send that to FOH, and then make any further tweaks for the stage sound (or your cab) with your TH amp.

Note that with the EQ all the way down, you are sending a flat signal out of the Noble. At this point, it is like a super clean tube DI that will just "warm up" your sound.

would there be a way to make the noble sound be more prominant and make the amp really just be an on stage speaker?

The way to do this would be to run: Bass -> (pedals if you have them) -> Noble -> FX Return of the amp -> Cab.

If you do this, then you bypass the preamp of the TH and are just using the power amp section - so the Noble becomes your "amp" and your sound would be 100% Noble.
The idea here is that you have your bass, pedals, and preamp, and you can plug into any PA system, house bass amp (using the FX Return), or what ever and have "your sound."

 

[Sam Dingle]

Yes. Not sure about the "controlled" sound, but yes. It's a preamp and can be used for recording in front of what ever interface you are using. If you use the XLR out, you have access to the 2.5 band EQ to shape your sound before it hits the interface. If you use the 1/4 out, you have control over the gain and EQ to shape your sound before it hits the recording interface.





Yes to the first one. The XLR out is a fixed volume, so the sound guy would get your signal with whatever EQ you have going on the Noble.

Yes to the second one -- IF you dial the knobs on the Noble. Using the 1/4" to go to your amp the volume on the Noble comes into play.

You can get a great basic tone out of the Noble, send that to FOH, and then make any further tweaks for the stage sound (or your cab) with your TH amp.

Note that with the EQ all the way down, you are sending a flat signal out of the Noble. At this point, it is like a super clean tube DI that will just "warm up" your sound.



The way to do this would be to run: Bass -> (pedals if you have them) -> Noble -> FX Return of the amp -> Cab.

If you do this, then you bypass the preamp of the TH and are just using the power amp section - so the Noble becomes your "amp" and your sound would be 100% Noble.
The idea here is that you have your bass, pedals, and preamp, and you can plug into any PA system, house bass amp (using the FX Return), or what ever and have "your sound."

I appreciate it! It seems that a DI is a good thing to have on your board regardless and the Noble doesn't seem like an over the top sound difference, but adds good "seasoning" to the sound. I imagine having my rig ill be able to mess with it and dial everything in, but if i'm running around to different amps learning how to just make the house rig a speaker is a good idea.

I also would need to figure out the order on my board. i have a pog octaver, aguilar distortion, mxr envelope and a boss chours and boss tuner so i'd mess with the order of that.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Note that with the EQ all the way down, you are sending a flat signal out of the Noble. At this point, it is like a super clean tube DI that will just "warm up" your sound.

And that's the most likely way you'll use this with double bass. At least this is what I've discovered with my double bass. I used the EQ more with electric bass. No EQ on double bass lets the natural sound and resonance of the acoustic instrument pass straight into FOH whatever you're using to amplify the signal.