I grew up around old school bikers, buddy. It's called "respect", and this cat is toeing the line. You don't need to be a musician to understand that.
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Not sure what to make of this statement.
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I’d just blow him off. Curious tho, what was his drum kit like? Good Ziljian cymbals, or cheap Sabian?
It's the guitarist. The drummer is a great guy with fantastic skills, he has a Mish-Mash kit that he has had for decades.
Where I come from(construction work) mild insults, or even comments that outsiders might find extremely offensive, are part of the fun. When we stop giving you a hard time. It means we dont like you anymore. Political correctness is rarely applied, especially when hassling someone you would take a bullet for
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hipsters gonna hipster.
he must be a blast at parties.
he must be a blast at parties.
An insecure, passive-aggressive guitarist - I'm shocked!
Agree with him noting that's why Clapton, Page, SRV (whoever is his guitar hero) played those expensive American guitars.
Agree with him noting that's why Clapton, Page, SRV (whoever is his guitar hero) played those expensive American guitars.
Not a band member sutuation - but I gig with 3x115 and 1x112 mesa subway cabs. Theres always this one local musician who gives me veiled insults at gigs- the "man you sound so good, but what a waste to bring such expensive gear out to a bar", or my favorite "that rig must have cost you what, ______? My 810 does the job just fine".
My reply is this "well my setup is roughly the same speaker area as your 810, except its modular and has lower frequency extension, and does the job just fine". Hes done this to me about 5 times now. Another reason why i hate drunks, but thats for another thread.
My reply is this "well my setup is roughly the same speaker area as your 810, except its modular and has lower frequency extension, and does the job just fine". Hes done this to me about 5 times now. Another reason why i hate drunks, but thats for another thread.
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He’s just insecure, and has a need to establish his position. Pass lightly over it and pretend it never happened. Time enough to take offence later, if he keeps it up.
I wonder how Victor Wooten would reply to that statement...or Geddy Lee...or any other big name bassist with fast fingers and incredible talent playing a $4000+ bass.
Sounds like typical guitarist BS...the image above about projection is spot on and most likely the true source of his ridiculous statement.
And the proper response would be, "So I guess those secure in their limited ability stick with instruments which reflect that."
You gotta toughen up, son.
You gotta toughen up, son.
I mean he's not wrong. But it's not necessarily something to take offense to. He made his unsolicited opinion known, coming from a place of pride and/or insecurity. You basically want to know if he's talking sh** about you, or just sh** talkin in general so if it comes up again just ask him which it is.
You could also ask the drummer what he thinks since you guys are a little tighter.
Also guitarists are just so often jerks and/or unaware. It's kind of a thing.
it's too easy to say "i'd expect comments like that from a guitar player,"
but a lot of wannabes/posers (any instrument) say things like that...and even top-notch players can be perturbed into making similar statements, too.but when a project is new: everyone wants to be 'approved' to some extent, and any of us might look for some semblance of 'affirmation'. sounds like this guy was attempting pithy/cool/wise all at once with his version of 'truth'.
in spite of my previous post (it's the real me!), i think discretion almost always works, and giving someone the benefit of doubt (also, the real me) can go a long way toward team building.
bottom line: i'd toss it off. you'll have lots of opportunities to evaluate as you spend more time together trying to sound like a band! good luck!
Are you offended by his statement or are you offended he didn’t give you some kind of respect?
For me, that's easy. You shoot a barb at me, I shoot one right back.
That lover of 70's lawsuit instruments would hear something like "Oh yeah? Have you felt your abilities decrease a couple of years back when those lawsuit guitars' prices suddenly hiked up?"
or, maybe "You're considering a US made standard bass expensive? Is that some kind of poor people's joke I'm too rich to understand?"
We'll see how it goes from there pretty quickly. Could swing either way - but I made sure there's nothing festering underneath the surface that comes up half a year later.
That lover of 70's lawsuit instruments would hear something like "Oh yeah? Have you felt your abilities decrease a couple of years back when those lawsuit guitars' prices suddenly hiked up?"
or, maybe "You're considering a US made standard bass expensive? Is that some kind of poor people's joke I'm too rich to understand?"
We'll see how it goes from there pretty quickly. Could swing either way - but I made sure there's nothing festering underneath the surface that comes up half a year later.
Just curious, but is the snarky guitarist any good?
Tom
Tom
You most likely did the right thing by just blowing it off. Me on the other hand, I have a pretty sarcastic sense of humor, and just can't let that kinda crap slide. Knowing myself, I would take two basses to the next rehearsal. One being the most expensive instrument I own, the other my cheap parts bass, and just play like crap. I mean just butcher a tune, followed with the statement "the more expensive bass I play the worse I get", then 1 switch basses and just nail it. But hey, that's just me. Of course, do it with love and a smile on your face.
Thanks for the input, even if you think I was being over-sensitive, lol. Perhaps I should have mentioned that I felt my "spider senses" tingle at the first jam session as well.
Try getting into a club by trashing someone's bike. Works great.
(If you don't understand that, apply it to a hobby or culture you're better versed in. Same result.)
Anyways, after some honest discussion the drummer and I are moving on. He might still jam with them and I hope he does.
I'm done here but please continue to opine for someone's future reference. ✌
Try getting into a club by trashing someone's bike. Works great.
(If you don't understand that, apply it to a hobby or culture you're better versed in. Same result.)
Anyways, after some honest discussion the drummer and I are moving on. He might still jam with them and I hope he does.
I'm done here but please continue to opine for someone's future reference. ✌
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