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Not very good bassists.

I'm not a huge Ramones fan (yet), but if you guys think you can out pace a guy who can shove attitude through all-downstroke picking at 130+ bpm for two hours straight without even speaking breaks between songs, be my guest.
 
Popcorn anyone?

I was going to suggest Gene Simmons. :hiding:

Well, like his personality or not, a personality doesnt make 35 years of good bass playign go away.

Listen to some of the songs: 100,000 years, strutter, Ladies Room, Detroit Rock City, Let Me Know, King of The Night Time World and many more. I get very angry when people say KISS is not musically valid because of their facade, and it bothers me, because they are looking at the band as a whole, not the individual members. I've also come to the conclusion that KISS is no less musically talented than AC/DC, because AC/DC is a very simple, 3-4 chord rock group. The only reason they were never criticized was because they didn't wear makeup, would KISS have been as disrespected as they are now if they hadn't worn the makeup in the first place??. And for the people who love to say that KISS would have never made it without the makeup, then how do you explain the 80's non-makeup era:rollno:??, which included quite a few of their 70's songs.


Anyway, check this clip-King of the Night Time World.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYi8RmIi8ZQ
 
"but really, these guys suck as bass players" I am not into AC/DC or Van Halen,but I think Cliff Williams can groove and really doubt he's not able to ad more complex bass parts into the songs. Those 8th notes are part of the AC/DC sound. I don't believe Cliff Williams got the job just because he knew Angus Young. I don't think Michael Anthony a bad bass player, and the guy can sure sing. Look who Van Halen has playing bass now..is he any better ? I think Mike Anthony must have had a very hard job just dealing with those two brothers. I think to say things like "these guys suck as bass players" shows people like me how immature some players are, and don't realize you play what makes the band sound good as a unit.

How immature some players are? I didn't realise you knew me personally. And here I was thinking this forum was to share opinions, not make personal accusations. But don't worry, I can still help you with that tricky bassline to Let There Be Rock if you need it:)
 
How immature some players are? I didn't realise you knew me personally. And here I was thinking this forum was to share opinions, not make personal accusations. But don't worry, I can still help you with that tricky bassline to Let There Be Rock if you need it:)

Now that is funny ! ! ! ! I don't know you personally...just can go by what you throw out there. Trust me,I really doubt I would need your help as far as bass playing. I was into Steve Harris,Geezer Butler and Cliff Burton about 20 years ago...sorry...I've moved on.
 
saying your better than some famous bass player is completely subjective and really isnt going to do anything for you... you can say your better than a bunch of people we think arent that great, but when it comes down to it, even guys like Pete Wentz (personaly dont have issue with the guy, but i know he not very popular on TB) are apparently good enough to make a great living as a bass player which isnt easy no matter what you think. That said, if you really want people to tell you your better than X, youll have to do more than describe your skill with a sentence, and im guessing even Pete Wentz can play another one bites the dust if he felt like learning it...

Also, if you think complex = good bass line, you have no idea what the purpose of a bass player is. We're there to connect the rhythm with the melody not to solo through entire songs. there are ofcourse great bass players that can play very complex stuff and make it work. but some of the best bass lines are very simple, and some of the most respected bass players will tell you less is usually more...
 
Marcus Miller. The dude's all thumbs.
This may not go down very well, but here goes...

Can anyone think of a bassist that I can say I'm about as good as? I can keep to quarter/eighth notes, and some very basic melodies. The most complex bassline that I can play? 'ANother One Bites the Dust' by Queen, or 'Sunday Morning' by the Velvets.

I'd like to think I was better, technically, than Dee Dee Ramone, but I can't think of any other professional bassists that I'm better than.

Any ideas anyone? Thanks.

MB
 

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