Octave up pedal

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Kyle Lee, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. Kyle Lee

    Kyle Lee

    Jan 31, 2019
    Any suggestions for pedals that do octaves and/or harmonizing notes (3rds, 5ths, etc)?

    Special Consideration: this would be used with a bass down-tuned to ADGC (WIP). Imo this would sound better than tuning up to ADGC and using octave down pedals. The low low notes bordering the range of human hearing just sound better when produced naturally rather than digitally. Plus I plan on using the low end more frequently than octaving up kinda deal, so I would rather not have to rely on a digital replication.
     
  2. estimated_eyes

    estimated_eyes

    May 12, 2013
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  3. Kyle Lee

    Kyle Lee

    Jan 31, 2019
    The link says the effect is more pronounced when playing above the 12th fret and with the neck pickup. Intuition tells me this means the effect is less effective (pun intended) with lower notes, which is what I want it for. Can anyone with experience verify that intuition right or wrong?

    Otherwise, cool pedal. Love the simplicity, but I would kinda prefer an option to vary the true pitch level vs the octave level for versatility sake. The pedal graphic would also match my octopus tattoo lol
     
  4. estimated_eyes

    estimated_eyes

    May 12, 2013
    There's demo videos of people playing it with bass online
     
  5. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 15, 2003
    Vegas
    That's like an octavia or green ringer - not a pitch shifter. The effect is a cool bell-toned fuzz. I like other versions better than the Tentacle just for more control, but it sounds like you're looking for something actually pitch-shifty like a POG or Quint? Pitchfork for more intervals?
     
  6. I tend to dislike digital octave up pedals because they sound chirpy. One thing you'll want to look for is a low pass filter feature. The Eventide Pitchfactor/H9 has this on some of the algorithms. I'm not sure if the TC Sub n Up has it as a control in the app.

    I'm waiting for more info on the Source Audio C4, which does have some harmonizing capabilities.

    Alternatively, if you're fine with a dirty octave up, I like the Foxrox Octron.
     
  7. Kyle Lee

    Kyle Lee

    Jan 31, 2019
    I thought a HPF would be more important than a LPF that way I don't waste any power producing sounds people can't hear? I've thought of getting a HPF and setting the cutoff for the low A fundamental: 27.5 Hz
     
  8. I'm talking about an LPF on the octave effect only, not the entire signal.
     
  9. Kyle Lee

    Kyle Lee

    Jan 31, 2019
    That makes sense. I didn't catch that you meant the LPF would be a good tool to counteract the chirpiness. Good idea. One pedal leads to another... Dang I need more money lol
     
  10. :D

    Go read it again. It's not that you need another pedal, it's that some have the LPF built in. Go find them.
     
  11. Kyle Lee

    Kyle Lee

    Jan 31, 2019
    That's what I get for trying to multitask. :rollno:Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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  12. Bass Whammy gets it done for me
     
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  14. The Fishman Fission is a slight update of the discontinued Akai UniBass that was designed by the guy behind Panda Industries Future Impact. The Future Impact has the same functions (algorithms) available.
     
  15. JohnArnson

    JohnArnson

    May 28, 2019
    I'd suggest a TC Electronic Sub'n'Up Mini.

    It's relatively cheap but has perfect tracking and very low latency on the octave up, further more you can tailor your pitchshifted tone exactly to your liking via the Toneprint app.

    I just use the standard stock polyphonic octave up and adds a bit of tremolo and reverb after that.

    Sounds great in my opinion.

    The TC Electronic Sub'n'Up octave up is more natural sounding than the more organ-esque octave up of the EHX POG, though pitchhifted signals will always sound somewhat artificial.
     
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  16. hbarcat

    hbarcat Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2006
    Rochelle, Illinois
    I love my EHX MicroPog because it does octave up so well and tracks instantly and accurately everywhere on the neck. The controls are very simple and it will even do octave down and octave up simultaneously. Makes a bass sing like playing chords on a guitar.
    Street price $214

    The full size version has a ton more controls. Octaves +1, +2, -1, -2. All possible simultaneously in variable amounts. Plus multiple advanced features like detune, HPF, attack, and user save presets.
    $351 street price.


    Both units are digital with simulated effect output, which means the generated tones are a bit artificial. That's has it positives and negatives. In a live gig setting, the audience will never notice the octave up is not a studio perfect duplicate of the original notes, but everyone will appreciate that the computer generated tones are clear and clean with no analog tracking errors.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2019
  17. cnltb

    cnltb

    May 28, 2005
  18. Or that you can get cheaper ones if you just look up green ringer clone which is basically what it is... or even a build your own if you are so inclined...
     
  19. KJackman

    KJackman

    May 25, 2006
    Newfoundland
    Without going to intelligent pitch shifting where you tell the device what key and intervals you want, my multi year search ended with the EHX pitch fork. I picked up a Mooer Tender Octaver Mark I along the way which unbeknownst to me is effectively the EHX mini POG (Big scandal).

    The octave up from the Pitch Fork and POG are the same to my ears. Probably using the same algorithm. The many options of the PF are fun but I only find myself using octave up or down live. It tracks very well and is quick. Worth a read to see if you like what it does EHX Pitch Fork
     
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  20. cnltb

    cnltb

    May 28, 2005
    True, all that.
    Can't you still get the ringer from kent armstrongs shop?
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