Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[monsterthompson]

The super 15 pictured seems to have five ports as opposed to six on the cab I posted, but I don't know if that's significant. Apparently, the super twin I own supersedes it anyway, so I guess it's all good

Google image search is bring up some expired images from Ebay of a Dubster which has the six ports. A Dubster would make sense with The Melvins. Other images are showing up with a five port Dubster.

 

[Tim1]

Just got back from band practice, took the Trace Elliot V4 all tube 200 watt head this time to sit on the Four 10. I really heard the grind from the speakers today, cranking the head with gain and master on about five each got a lovely touch of top end overdrive. Different to the Orange AD200 although both heads had that classic bottom for which they are renowned. Starting to think I may get another Four 10 and then any scenario would be a go. I had thought I would get a Two 10 to sit on top and use for small gigs but the Four 10 is such an easy schlep that there does not seem much point in going the Two 10 way now. Decisions, decisions.....man I love Alex's tens .

 

[Plutonium244]

Just got back from band practice, took the Trace Elliot V4 all tube 200 watt head this time to sit on the Four 10. I really heard the grind from the speakers today, cranking the head with gain and master on about five each got a lovely touch of top end overdrive. Different to the Orange AD200 although both heads had that classic bottom for which they are renowned. Starting to think I may get another Four 10 and then any scenario would be a go. I had thought I would get a Two 10 to sit on top and use for small gigs but the Four 10 is such an easy schlep that there does not seem much point in going the Two 10 way now. Decisions, decisions.....man I love Alex's tens .

As narrow front-to-back as the BF Four10 is (13"), relative to it's height (24"), and considering that the weight is primarily front-loaded, I wonder a bit about stability for two stacked Four10's. I am sure probably it's fine, and I may be a bit paranoid about since my Four10 almost got tipped by a drunkard at my last gig. When transporting in the car, it is prone to tip forward around corners unless tightly packed against other gear, which I am reluctant to do especially since I have the cloth grill. If I use an AmpWedge™ under it in transport, so that it tilts back a bit, it stabilizes pretty well; but occupies more space vis-a-vis packing.

I do love the tone of the Four10, and also the One10. These 10" drivers do sound really good as you observe. I like, too, that Alex can offer two distinctly different cab tones-- with the 10's and 12's-- that are both terrific, in very much different ways.

 

[whirledpeas]

Loving my One10.

Like to pick up a Super Midget or BB2. Please drop me a line if you have one to move along

 

[Tim1]

As narrow front-to-back as the BF Four10 is (13"), relative to it's height (24"), and considering that the weight is primarily front-loaded, I wonder a bit about stability for two stacked Four10's. I am sure probably it's fine, and I may be a bit paranoid about since my Four10 almost got tipped by a drunkard at my last gig. When transporting in the car, it is prone to tip forward around corners unless tightly packed against other gear, which I am reluctant to do especially since I have the cloth grill. If I use an AmpWedge™ under it in transport, so that it tilts back a bit, it stabilizes pretty well; but occupies more space vis-a-vis packing.

I do love the tone of the Four10, and also the One10. These 10" drivers do sound really good as you observe. I like, too, that Alex can offer two distinctly different cab tones-- with the 10's and 12's-- that are both terrific, in very much different ways.

This is a valid point I hadn't considered, thanks for raising it. Not so worried about a punter tipping it over but it is quite shallow in comparison to other cabs as you say. Might have to go back to the Two 10 on top theory, although I doubt Alex would make a cabinet that is not stable and they are not tall cabs.
Must get the Rick out next weekend, it would love the grind of the Four 10. This is probably the first time that I have been so conscious of the cabinet having such a major impact on my tone as opposed to the amp, I am considering getting a decent bass specific mic and mic'ing the cab in combination with DI rather than just a DI. Don't want to lose that tone out front at bigger gigs.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Wall paper jazz time.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Wall paper jazz time.

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@The Diaper Geni Where do you set the BB2 dial for the horn when you're playing the upright? I have a Taylor AB-1 acoustic bass guitar and prefer setting the horn full on for acoustic, and dialing it off about 33% for my Jazz bass. For some reason the "PA tone" seems to work best for me on acoustic, even if I have the onboard preamp boosting bass a tad or slightly rolling off highs.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

@The Diaper Geni Where do you set the BB2 dial for the horn when you're playing the upright? I have a Taylor AB-1 acoustic bass guitar and prefer setting the horn full on for acoustic, and dialing it off about 33% for my Jazz bass. For some reason the "PA tone" seems to work best for me on acoustic, even if I have the onboard preamp boosting bass a tad or slightly rolling off highs.

It's a SM. I leave the tweet on full all the time.

 

[Cowboy in Latvia]

I did a small gig with my One 10 a couple weeks ago (about 200 people in a small gymnasium). It was up against an electric guitar using my Rumble 100, an acoustic guitar through the PA, a soloist through the PA and a choir that was mic-ed through the PA. While it wasn't enough to carry the show on its own, it made a great stage monitor for the band and I did get asked to turn it down so that the mix would be a bit better FOH (so at least it's that loud). It sounded great and recorded well. I'm pretty darned happy with it but I will need more if we have a slightly louder band down the road (finally have a drummer and keys lined up, no guitar but I can do with keys instead). So...

Just got the OK from the wifey to put down a deposit on another One 10 in the next 30 days depending on how fast my old stuff sells. I sold a bass which should cover the deposit and will sell a few more guitar items that I don't use anymore which should easily cover the rest. Two One 10 cabs along with my Carvin BX250 should keep me more than set for a few years.

 

[Cowboy in Latvia]

Slightly odd question so I figured I would do a second post to ask it.

How would a One 10 do as an e-drum cab for small venues (think European basement pub small)? I do realize that it won't handle the highs as well as we might like but if we don't need a lot of volume and space is at a premium. Will probably eventually make a Greenboy-type cab for the drummer, or put together a small PA for her, but this is what I have for now.

EDIT: I realize that the best solution would be a FR800 but that's a teensy bit out of the price range for now. Plus, when I leave the country, shipping will be ruinous.

 

[Plutonium244]

Slightly odd question so I figured I would do a second post to ask it.

How would a One 10 do as an e-drum cab for small venues (think European basement pub small)? I do realize that it won't handle the highs as well as we might like but if we don't need a lot of volume and space is at a premium. Will probably eventually make a Greenboy-type cab for the drummer, or put together a small PA for her, but this is what I have for now.

EDIT: I realize that the best solution would be a FR800 but that's a teensy bit out of the price range for now. Plus, when I leave the country, shipping will be ruinous.

A Super Midget or Big Baby 2 would, IMO, work better as a e-drum cabinet than a One10. Yes, FR800 would be ideal but there's no need to pay for an amplifier (built in to FR800) as well. SM or Big Baby (1/2 to 2/3 the cost) plus an amp of your choice EQ'd properly, would fit that bill admirably IMO. The uncolored tone of the BF 12's would be better for electronic drums. It's not quite the same as what you are asking, but I don't really care for the tone the One10 and a bass amp give for my simple drum machine; a different, neutral amp might do much better. It really depends if you just need a serviceable sound, which a One10 will give for e-drums with proper EQ, or if you want it to sound like I think it should. Certainly it'll do it, just a matter if it'll satisfy your tonal demands.

 

[Cowboy in Latvia]

I don't really care for the tone the One10 and a bass amp give for my simple drum machine

Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for. I figured without a tweeter, and the cab's natural tone, that the One 10 would not be ideal but how far from ideal is what I was wondering. The ideal setup will come when the gigs are on the horizon...until then we will plan the perfect drum amp rig.

 

[kd5uwl]

I've put off posting this about my new Two10 until I was sure, but I can now say my V4b (reissue) has never sounded better. In my practice space I've settled on all EQ at noon and the thing has just never sounded better.

In my opinion, and with my space, I think I get more of what I bought the V4b for: the SVT sound without the weight and etc of my real SVT (which I sold). For my circumstances the SVT (which I loved and is a legend, of course), was just too much .. in various different ways.

But the tough thing for me to accept today is that the V4b (again, in my environment and in my opinion), actually sounds better and more SVT-like through the Two10 than through my Heritage 810.

Someone else might disagree, but to my ear, the Two10 has more top end right where it contributes to the grind I like. Not in an in-your-face sort of way, just in a very complementary and bass-friendly way .. when I'm going for grind, that is - it can also be quite clean. Oh, and it has plenty of deep, solid, clear and well-controlled bottom end, too.

The cab just sounds better to me every day and I am thoroughly pleased with it and the entire Barefaced outfit.

 

[middy]

I've put off posting this about my new Two10 until I was sure, but I can now say my V4b (reissue) has never sounded better. In my practice space I've settled on all EQ at noon and the thing has just never sounded better.

In my opinion, and with my space, I think I get more of what I bought the V4b for: the SVT sound without the weight and etc of my real SVT (which I sold). For my circumstances the SVT (which I loved and is a legend, of course), was just too much .. in various different ways.

But the tough thing for me to accept today is that the V4b (again, in my environment and in my opinion), actually sounds better and more SVT-like through the Two10 than through my Heritage 810.

Someone else might disagree, but to my ear, the Two10 has more top end right where it contributes to the grind I like. Not in an in-your-face sort of way, just in a very complementary and bass-friendly way .. when I'm going for grind, that is - it can also be quite clean. Oh, and it has plenty of deep, solid, clear and well-controlled bottom end, too.

The cab just sounds better to me every day and I am thoroughly pleased with it and the entire Barefaced outfit.

Not to mention the easy load out and the far superior dispersion... I'm never going back to a 810.

 

[boristhespider7]

Metal.

GB Shuttle 3.0-10T w/ext. cab if necessary.

Or a GK MB212.

Or a couple of 210AV's.

Ugh.

I'm interested, how does the One10 compare to the 210AV's?
(BTW, we seem to have similar tastes...i currently have a ST (love it!) and thinking about getting a one10 or 210AV's)

 

[eshalon]

Hey Tim1! I am also from NZ and have a Two10. I was just wondering out of all your tube heads what one do you think best matches your Four10?

 

[Tim1]

Hey Tim1! I am also from NZ and have a Two10. I was just wondering out of all your tube heads what one do you think best matches your Four10?

Hi Eshalon, I have only really given it a good workout in a band situation so far with the Orange AD200 and the Trace Elliott V4. Both sounded fantastic, with the Trace giving it a bit more grind. Hard to say which I prefer out of the two, probably the Orange for its bottom but the Trace had a bit more grind. Will be giving the Ampeg V4b a chance next weekend, then down the track the Super Bassman. You really can't go wrong with any of them but as I get more used to the cab and it gets broken in I am appreciating the way it lets each head shine in its own way. When I first got it I heard the Four 10's strong character and loved it, but it definitely does not color the tone to the extent that each amp's subtleties does not come through. My tube heads have never sounded better.

 

[eshalon]

Hi Eshalon, I have only really given it a good workout in a band situation so far with the Orange AD200 and the Trace Elliott V4B. Both sounded fantastic, with the Trace giving it a bit more grind. Hard to say which I prefer out of the two, probably the Orange for its bottom but the Trace had a bit more grind. Will be giving the Ampeg V4b a chance next weekend, then down the track the Super Bassman. You really can't go wrong with any of them but as I get more used to the cab and it gets broken in I am appreciating the way it lets each head shine in its own way. When I first got it I heard the Four 10's strong character and loved it, but it definitely does not color the tone to the extent that each amp's subtleties does not come through. My tube heads have never sounded better.

Thanks. I will be interested in your thoughts on the v4b and super bassman. I currently have an old 400 non plus but am considering updating soon and those two heads are among the few I am interested in

 

[tombowlus]

Wall paper jazz time.

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Nice! Love the Clarus SL, as well!

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Nice! Love the Clarus SL, as well!

Yeah. GREAT little amp.

Took me a minute to figure out that the Input Gain can take a really hot signal before it clips.

Before I realized that I was disappointed in the output of the amp. But now? Fuggedabowdit. Freakin' loud and clean with a lot of "weight" to each note.