I boosted them a bit, but could have used a bit more. Low mid and bass were both set around 2:00. Can I go higher with no worries?
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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I boosted them a bit, but could have used a bit more. Low mid and bass were both set around 2:00. Can I go higher with no worries?
It all depends on your overall volume. I certainly do boost low mids (about 250Hz) pretty heavily, and I cut the lowest lows (30Hz). If your eq capability will allow this, the cab will handle it within reason.......just listen to the cab.
MB200 + One10 = very good.
I think you do get a little less low when on a tabletop, on a pole, etc. It optimized to be on the floor but its a bit far from ear level unless you're seated. You might also try in horizontal on a table top so that the port is side-oriented instead of down. That will fatten the overall bass a bit. It does take EQ well, and I do throw some good bass at it but would be cautious with then when cranked, as lomo said.
Where I put it depends on the situation, I've done table-top, floor, pole, and floor with amp-wedge to give it some upward projection while still having something under it for optimal port function. Sometimes if I have it one way and I don't get what I want, I change the orientation etc. From my experience there is always some location/orientation that will work well in pretty much every room.
I don't know how loud your band is, I don't play any rock gigs with mine; so I can't fully attest to how a One10 will handle big bass at high volume. Limits, I am sure. I don't expect a car that gives me 75mpg to give me 400 horsepower too.
I love the total portability of One10+MB200 amp, cords, everything fit into a single cajon bag; and bass. But lately I've been bringing the Barefaced SM for small gigs that might be/get bigger than expected. I am pretty sure the SM will handle any volume a restaurant gig or most bar gigs will require, and is 21 pounds.
I think you do get a little less low when on a tabletop, on a pole, etc. It optimized to be on the floor but its a bit far from ear level unless you're seated. You might also try in horizontal on a table top so that the port is side-oriented instead of down. That will fatten the overall bass a bit. It does take EQ well, and I do throw some good bass at it but would be cautious with then when cranked, as lomo said.
Where I put it depends on the situation, I've done table-top, floor, pole, and floor with amp-wedge to give it some upward projection while still having something under it for optimal port function. Sometimes if I have it one way and I don't get what I want, I change the orientation etc. From my experience there is always some location/orientation that will work well in pretty much every room.
I don't know how loud your band is, I don't play any rock gigs with mine; so I can't fully attest to how a One10 will handle big bass at high volume. Limits, I am sure. I don't expect a car that gives me 75mpg to give me 400 horsepower too.
I love the total portability of One10+MB200 amp, cords, everything fit into a single cajon bag; and bass. But lately I've been bringing the Barefaced SM for small gigs that might be/get bigger than expected. I am pretty sure the SM will handle any volume a restaurant gig or most bar gigs will require, and is 21 pounds.
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That's why I ended up having both One10 and SM! I am totally satisfied with both for different goals. I tried my SM recently with the loud rock band setting and it can easily catch up with the two guitar stacks and a loud drummer.
Thanks for the tips. I will definitely try re-configuring the orientation based on the room. My band is actually not too loud - it's a 3 piece with me, a drummer, and a singer that plays acoustic guitar direct into a small PA. I had the MB200 volume up about halfway at the last gig. We mostly do restaurants/pubs and corporate events, but we're doing an arena corporate thing in a couple weeks where they're expecting 12,000 people. That one will have full PA, so I may end up with the smallest rig/biggest venue award!
I'm in the process of buying a Big Twin II 
Already paid the downpayment.
I'll primarily use it with my double bass... Does anyone have experience with that? I've used the search function.. no results.
Already paid the downpayment. I'll primarily use it with my double bass... Does anyone have experience with that? I've used the search function.. no results.
The Big Baby 2 is plenty loud with most DB gigs. Personally I'm going for the Super Midget to give me options with a more modular setup.I'm in the process of buying a Big Twin II
I'll primarily use it with my double bass... Does anyone have experience with that? I've used the search function.. no results.
That's been in the works a while... I'll bet it's killer but at nearly $1700, well....
That said, when I win the lottery, I will have a PA including a pair of FR800's and a couple of these. Six large.
Just put the down payment down on a Super Twin. This will be my most expensive music related purchase but hopefully one that will last me for decades. I'm a little nervous that a Super Twin may be too much for my needs but Alex said it would be best so I'm deferring to his better knowledge of his engineering. I'm excited! Now I have to start looking through this big thread to build the anticipation ha.
I like my Super Twin so far.
I've spent a little more on basses, but this is probably my second most expensive purchase. I've been very happy with the build quality, and the sound has been very good. It isn't the sort of cab that sound funny turned down, so don't worry about it being "too much." It has a great flat response that lets you hear everything in an even way.
It is also much lighter than you think it is, so don't worry about moving it around.
+1 on that, surprised at how light it is. Sounds great at bedroom volumes as well as full out in gig
Personally can't answer as i've never had a 8x10 and i've never had to push my ST to its full volume
My guitarist has an 810 that I've been itching to use. Maybe I can do a side by side comparison.
Darn close.
I wanted it to capture a similar sound profile, which is why I didn't get the full range Big Twin. The lows are very solid, and not just scooped\subby. There is some meat on them bones.
I'm using a Mesa D800 and was lucky enough to be able to A\B the BF it with a lesser 90s Ampeg 8x10 using the same head. The sound profiles were very similar. I've only been able to use it at full volume twice, but I'm happy so far.
First, all of the frequencies are there. The problem with my GK cabs is that they were missing some of the low mids I was after. The ST is very clear at any volume, without getting brittle in the highs or muddy\farty in the lows. That complete sound helps a lot with your volume.
Second, with my D800 gain @ noon, volume @ 11, Deep off, "passive" mode, Low @ 1:30, Mid-Low @ 1:30, Mid-Hi @ noon, High @ noon I am able to compete with loud drums, a Marshall full stack, and a Randall half stack. When we practice we go full volume. I don't feel like I've pushed it yet.
There are some guys with golden ears and years of experience with 70s SVT gear that will say it isn't in the same league. I can't speak to that. I'd love to hear a V4-B through it.
Tonight when we practice our second guitar player will be out, so I'm gonna go full-on Royal Blood with this thing and see what it does.
Thanks for the info! I'll be using it with a Darkglass amp and I'm glad that the cab isn't scooped. My GK 410 requires me to crank the mids sometimes and I cut some bass so it doesn't get too muddy or boomy. I'm playing in Bb standard so it's hard to get articulate lows that have power. I've resigned myself to just using mids to cut through the mix without much low bass impact. The main benefit im wanting from the ST is the weight, handle placement and built in wheels though. I've gotta bad back and even though my 410 is light for a 410 it's still too much for me and the handle placement is awful.
I never realized how scooped 410 were until I got a pair of 112s. They are kind of a pain in the butt.
The ST is light; deceptively so. If there is one flaw in the design it is that the cab is shortish, so actually tipping it back and rolling it is hard to do if you are taller. I'm 5 10 and have a little trouble making the angles work. An extending handle like luggage has would solve this, but that's an engineering nightmare I'm sure they don't want.
I've thought of this problem as I am over 6 ft. I think what I'll do is extend the handle by tying a thick extended handle made of paracord to the original handle. It would have to be really secure but I think it could help with that. With this cab I could load and unload in one trip! The only thing I'm really in the dark about now is the wait time to get the cab..
I have a Big Twin 2 and I'm about 6' tall; I also found that tipping back and rolling is not as easy as I thought it would be. But for $30 or so you can get one of these and a couple of 48" bungee cords, problem solved:
Milwaukee 150 lbs. Fold-Up Truck-73777 - The Home Depot
