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#11,621
Tim1 said:
It is still unclear to me from the website whether or not the Super Mini T is simply a renamed Super Midget or a new design. Both are listed in different parts of the site but there is no specific information that I can find linked to the Super Mini T.
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Here: Which bass cab?
It says:
The Super Mini T is a miniaturised version of the Super Compact T - the lows are not as full or deep but sound slightly thicker. If you want the ultimate portable cab with lots of output that can handle any kind of tone for bass guitar or double bass (or even keys or FRFR guitar) the Super Mini T is it. It used to be called the Super Midget.
 
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Bassdrifter said:
Here: Which bass cab?
It says:
The Super Mini T is a miniaturised version of the Super Compact T - the lows are not as full or deep but sound slightly thicker. If you want the ultimate portable cab with lots of output that can handle any kind of tone for bass guitar or double bass (or even keys or FRFR guitar) the Super Mini T is it. It used to be called the Super Midget.
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Ah thank you. I had not seen the part that says it used to be called the Super Midget. Obviously I should do more due diligence before posting
 
#11,623
mmbongo said:
I never understood why the Barefaced 12" cabs all had slightly different width and depth measurements. Just different enough to be annoying to try to stack them. Looks like that would also make manufacturing easier.
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They're designed to be the best they can be at what they do, that's all.

The BB3 does stack neatly with the BT2 and BT3. The SC and BB2/BB3 don't stack neatly because they're not designed to be used together. The SC and ST don't stack neatly even though they work well together because reshaping the SC to fit nicely on an ST was too much of a compromise for users who only use an SC (or two). The SM doesn't stack neatly on the BB2/BB3 even though they pair up well sonically because any changes to make it fit neatly (extra width or height) make it a less good size/shape as a solo cab - I tried lots of different approaches but I can't make it work.

Also when we launched the 12XN models there weren't many amps that could run below 4 ohms so we didn't have many people using 3x12XN rigs. Now there are more amps that can do that. I feel the BB3 is better than the BB2 in every way (and does the neat stack thing). That reshaping doesn't work so well with the SC so it's staying as it's always been and we're adding this niche model of the Super 3rd to add to people's Super Twins who want more height/output.

Tim1 said:
It is still unclear to me from the website whether or not the Super Mini T is simply a renamed Super Midget or a new design. Both are listed in different parts of the site but there is no specific information that I can find linked to the Super Mini T.
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The website is about to go through a lot of updating. The Super Mini T is a rename of the Super Midget. This makes more sense with there now being a Super Compact T and a Super Twin T. And thus we can do a Super Mini (without tweeter) for bassists who want the smallest 12XN but don't need extended highs.
 
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mmbongo said:
I never understood why the Barefaced 12" cabs all had slightly different width and depth measurements. Just different enough to be annoying to try to stack them. Looks like that would also make manufacturing easier.
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I guess it's because the cabs are designed by an acoustic engineer for their sound, not by the marketing dept, for looks. It doesn't bother me if the cabs are slightly different widths. No one has ever said your cabs look wrong.
 
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alexclaber said:
They're designed to be the best they can be at what they do, that's all.

The BB3 does stack neatly with the BT2 and BT3. The SC and BB2/BB3 don't stack neatly because they're not designed to be used together. The SC and ST don't stack neatly even though they work well together because reshaping the SC to fit nicely on an ST was too much of a compromise for users who only use an SC (or two). The SM doesn't stack neatly on the BB2/BB3 even though they pair up well sonically because any changes to make it fit neatly (extra width or height) make it a less good size/shape as a solo cab - I tried lots of different approaches but I can't make it work.

Also when we launched the 12XN models there weren't many amps that could run below 4 ohms so we didn't have many people using 3x12XN rigs. Now there are more amps that can do that. I feel the BB3 is better than the BB2 in every way (and does the neat stack thing). That reshaping doesn't work so well with the SC so it's staying as it's always been and we're adding this niche model of the Super 3rd to add to people's Super Twins who want more height/output.



The website is about to go through a lot of updating. The Super Mini T is a rename of the Super Midget. This makes more sense with there now being a Super Compact T and a Super Twin T. And thus we can do a Super Mini (without tweeter) for bassists who want the smallest 12XN but don't need extended highs.
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Good info, Alex!

Now the question I have is...how does the Super 3rd compare to the Super Compact?
 
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#11,629
Reading this forum is making the waiting every harder. I have a One10T and a BT3 on order. One for my practice space and one for gigging. Really looking forward to getting my cabs. I've never heard one or seen one in the wild, so I hope all of you who rave about them aren't playing a cruel practical joke on us Barefaced newbs. LOL! :)
 
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alexclaber said:
They're designed to be the best they can be at what they do, that's all.

The BB3 does stack neatly with the BT2 and BT3. The SC and BB2/BB3 don't stack neatly because they're not designed to be used together. The SC and ST don't stack neatly even though they work well together because reshaping the SC to fit nicely on an ST was too much of a compromise for users who only use an SC (or two). The SM doesn't stack neatly on the BB2/BB3 even though they pair up well sonically because any changes to make it fit neatly (extra width or height) make it a less good size/shape as a solo cab - I tried lots of different approaches but I can't make it work.

Also when we launched the 12XN models there weren't many amps that could run below 4 ohms so we didn't have many people using 3x12XN rigs. Now there are more amps that can do that. I feel the BB3 is better than the BB2 in every way (and does the neat stack thing). That reshaping doesn't work so well with the SC so it's staying as it's always been and we're adding this niche model of the Super 3rd to add to people's Super Twins who want more height/output.



The website is about to go through a lot of updating. The Super Mini T is a rename of the Super Midget. This makes more sense with there now being a Super Compact T and a Super Twin T. And thus we can do a Super Mini (without tweeter) for bassists who want the smallest 12XN but don't need extended highs.
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Thanks for the update. Looking forward to seeing these updates on the website. Is there a picture of the Super Twin T available?
 
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#11,635
Love the 12xn cabs. Just get two like cabs and stack 'em. :) I went with the BB3's - super impressed with their versatility as well as power handling. If I need more than that, it's going to be FOH support. :)
 
#11,637
alexclaber said:
They're designed to be the best they can be at what they do, that's all.

The BB3 does stack neatly with the BT2 and BT3. The SC and BB2/BB3 don't stack neatly because they're not designed to be used together. The SC and ST don't stack neatly even though they work well together because reshaping the SC to fit nicely on an ST was too much of a compromise for users who only use an SC (or two). The SM doesn't stack neatly on the BB2/BB3 even though they pair up well sonically because any changes to make it fit neatly (extra width or height) make it a less good size/shape as a solo cab - I tried lots of different approaches but I can't make it work.

Also when we launched the 12XN models there weren't many amps that could run below 4 ohms so we didn't have many people using 3x12XN rigs. Now there are more amps that can do that. I feel the BB3 is better than the BB2 in every way (and does the neat stack thing). That reshaping doesn't work so well with the SC so it's staying as it's always been and we're adding this niche model of the Super 3rd to add to people's Super Twins who want more height/output.



The website is about to go through a lot of updating. The Super Mini T is a rename of the Super Midget. This makes more sense with there now being a Super Compact T and a Super Twin T. And thus we can do a Super Mini (without tweeter) for bassists who want the smallest 12XN but don't need extended highs.
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So...you're telling me I'll be ordering a Super Mini next year...:smug:
 
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#11,640
Tim1 said:
For the first time last Saturday I actually heard my bb2 fart out. Not a problem as I was using it for a change with my Orange AD200 and for some reason the bass and volume were boosted on both my Sadowsky and the head. Quick tweak and all was fine. I post this because Alex has said you will notice straight away if you are overriding the twelves, less so with the tens. He was right.
No harm done at all as it was only one note and I instantly adjusted things, but certainly the first time in years of using Barefaced cabs that I have experienced this.
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My guess is the BB's didn't hiccup, the Sadowsky preamp pushed the amp past its limit, and you heard the amp try to clip the signal as it was pushed to the cab (safety feature). As you probably know, Sadowsky basses are super hot with the bass and treble rolled completely off. Personally, on my Sadowsky basses I can't turn either past what would be 2 of 10 before it's too much...
 

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