I changed the feet under my Four10 to these. Larger surface and more rubbery feeling, so the cab doesn't move.
https://www.thomann.de/dk/adam_hall_4909_gummifuss_pack.htm
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https://www.thomann.de/dk/adam_hall_4909_gummifuss_pack.htm
You are correct - possible reasons for my error - we are in different hemispheres, so everything is opposite, or I was looking over the top of my BB3 so my head was oriented backwards. - Just trying (perhaps badly) to inject a little humor.
It looks like the website has been updated. This link is quite useful.
Which bass cab?
I like the smaller size and weight of the Super Twin vs Big Twin 3 but have been on the fence because it doesn't have a tweeter. I always dial them back just to provide a bit of treble extension without being harsh, but it's nice to have the option. I was going to write Alex and ask him if a Super Twin T was possible but there it is. This would be a one and done with my Berg Forte HP.
I'd really like to see a front shot of one if available.
The horn that is used in the bb3/bt3 is awesome. It isn't harsh or "scratchy" sounding like most tweeters on other cabs. Tweeters on other cabs are there for the spec sheet and marketing - they sound harsh and non-musical. Can't say enough about how good they really sound.
This was my rig for my gig last Saturday. I was standing in on bass as their bass player was unavailable.
Big Twin II and Big Baby II.
I wan't up loud i just wanted to try out my In-2 switching unit with two cabs. I had it set to send neck pickup to the BTII and bridge to BBII and neck pickup only to the FOH
Big Twin II and Big Baby II.
I wan't up loud i just wanted to try out my In-2 switching unit with two cabs. I had it set to send neck pickup to the BTII and bridge to BBII and neck pickup only to the FOH
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I am going to be playing an outdoor gig for a housing association. I have an Aguilar TH 500 and a BB3. I won't be going through a PA system, it'll only be my amp and cab.
I read a lot of stuff that "any speaker can be blown with any amp" that makes no sense to me, but at $1100 for a BB3, I am not interested in testing this theory. Lots and lots of comments in the TH threads talk about them clipping (at least the clipping light goes off) but supposedly it's not a danger to the cab.
Bottom line, I'd like advice on general settings to give me a nice clean sound (not into distortion, nor does it fit with the music we play), a fat bottom - is that possible in open air with this rig?- but not blow my cab, if I even need to worry about this. I'm not sure the wattage of the PA system that will be handling vocals and 2 acoustic guitars. The lead has a 90 watt Mesa Boogie and he likes to play loud. Drums won't be miked.
A couple years ago I used a TC BG 250 and was loud enough, but only due to cutting bass and adding midrange.
Any help appreciated and if you have some specific advice on settings for the TH that's icing on the cake.
I read a lot of stuff that "any speaker can be blown with any amp" that makes no sense to me, but at $1100 for a BB3, I am not interested in testing this theory. Lots and lots of comments in the TH threads talk about them clipping (at least the clipping light goes off) but supposedly it's not a danger to the cab.
Bottom line, I'd like advice on general settings to give me a nice clean sound (not into distortion, nor does it fit with the music we play), a fat bottom - is that possible in open air with this rig?- but not blow my cab, if I even need to worry about this. I'm not sure the wattage of the PA system that will be handling vocals and 2 acoustic guitars. The lead has a 90 watt Mesa Boogie and he likes to play loud. Drums won't be miked.
A couple years ago I used a TC BG 250 and was loud enough, but only due to cutting bass and adding midrange.
Any help appreciated and if you have some specific advice on settings for the TH that's icing on the cake.
I would use a High Pass Filter if I were you to remove the sub lows that only add mud and risk to dammage the cab (no one can hear them anyway). I don't know if that would be enough, but I would start there.
I'm not sure anyone can give you general settings. Your playing style and your bass will play greatly into the settings. I would say say to turn it up loud and cut the bass a little.
These cabs can take a lot so just listen to it. If it sounds likes you're doing something bad you probably are. I believe Alex has said that it's blatantly obvious when you're pushing the 12" cabs past their limits because they make an awful sound.
I've had mine for years and have pushed them pretty hard at times, sometimes with pretty big amps. They've been rock solid.
These cabs can take a lot so just listen to it. If it sounds likes you're doing something bad you probably are. I believe Alex has said that it's blatantly obvious when you're pushing the 12" cabs past their limits because they make an awful sound.
I've had mine for years and have pushed them pretty hard at times, sometimes with pretty big amps. They've been rock solid.
I run a 5 string bass through a TH500 and BB3, don't get PA help and have never got close to damaging the cab. I also run 800 watts into a BB3 and SM at high volume levels. Again with no issues.
Can "any amp damage any speaker"? I doubt that's true. I wouldn't expect 250 watts into an 800 watt BB3 to do any damage at all. You can hear when a cab is being stressed, but I doubt you'll get to that point with a TH500 running at 8 ohms.
I believe the clipping light on a TH500 is for information purposes and does not indicate a problem. If you have no confidence in the advice given in this thread, email Barefaced. They will give you the correct information.
alexclaber
Commercial User
This! And you'd have to do something really weird with a TH500 to get it to blow a BB3, it's simply not that powerful.
Usually when folks say any amp can blow any cab, they are referring to the feeding the cab 500 watts of below 30hz. (Cranking the bass on an active bass, scooping the mids and cranking the bass on the amp, depending on how it is voiced).
I always run an hpf for my live rigs. Can really clean up mud on stage, and you can clean up mud in FOH if they insist on making the bass sound like sludge. Definitely worth running as using an hpf can help an amp run more efficiently by not wasting energy reproducing frequencies that are not easy to reproduce for most bass cabs (30hz is a great starting point for a bb3) or frequencies that are just pure mud in a venue.
I always run an hpf for my live rigs. Can really clean up mud on stage, and you can clean up mud in FOH if they insist on making the bass sound like sludge. Definitely worth running as using an hpf can help an amp run more efficiently by not wasting energy reproducing frequencies that are not easy to reproduce for most bass cabs (30hz is a great starting point for a bb3) or frequencies that are just pure mud in a venue.
What do you find is a good general frequency that is the start of the "mud zone"?
Really Depends on the cab, stage and how you want to sound as well. I haven't had the chance to play live with my BB3s yet. One time when a backline had an ampeg 410hlf I had my hpf close to 70/80 hz for that cab/stage/venue. Too much mud. That cab in general is too muddy for my taste. The venue didn't help either..
Interesting. I have the HPF set to about 50hz on my Bergantino Forte HP. That's mainly because of the cab I play through doesn't go very low and I don't want to push it too hard. I'll be curious so what it will be set at with my new Barefaced rig.
I'd be curious to know which amp can actually output 500w of 30hz for more than some extremely short period of time
ThisI'd be curious to know which amp can actually output 500w of 30hz for more than some extremely short period of time
I use no pedals, or boxes - just bass to amp to cab. Is there a HPF that you recommend? I think I would rarely use it as I rarely do loud, or our door gigs, or is a HPF something that bassists should always be using?
alexclaber
Commercial User
However with most amps this isn't needed - the majority already have high pass filtering built in.
I appreciate that more bassists with more technical understanding often like high pass filters but I think they confuse a lot of bassists and risk bassists losing the weight and size from their tone by over-zealous high-passing.
alexclaber
Commercial User
I'd be curious to know which amp can actually output 500w of 30hz for more than some extremely short period of time
Loads of amps can, 30Hz power is no harder to generate than 300Hz power (actually it's easier to generate low frequency power than high frequency power). But not a lot of musical instruments put much signal down there into an amp and not a lot of amps let all of it through anyway.
