Six10T. Yeah, the SVT left in a body bag!
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Got my One10T recently. I have a Mesa D-350 amp on it. Sounds wonderful. I play mostly for my own benefit these days, and so I am thrilled that I can have a compact set up that also has all the tonal nuance of a much bigger cab, at least to my ear.
Bass players today have it so good. These compact and lightweight units sound amazing. I want to go back in time 25 years with a BF Super Mini and save my younger self the trouble of lugging around that huge Ampeg cab. If only. Different time, different needs, different budget, different tech.
Bass players today have it so good. These compact and lightweight units sound amazing. I want to go back in time 25 years with a BF Super Mini and save my younger self the trouble of lugging around that huge Ampeg cab. If only. Different time, different needs, different budget, different tech.
I think I got one of the last ones, before their shop closed. If it's good enough for Mr. Sklar…
Man, you are right about that!
It's my opinion that if many of the great bass players of the past had had the options available to them then that we have today, many of them would have made different choices. Which is an amusing thought to me, given how many people are chasing tones made by bass players who didn't have the choices we do.
I just got a nice one-year old Super Twin. Like new. In fact, I'm breaking in the drivers and after 3 hours or so of volume they're opening up rather nicely! When I get a new cab, I make sure all the screws are tight. I removed the 10 screws securing the front metal grill. The grill appears to be glued to the frame. I slide a small flathead under a corner and it makes an unsticking sound as I slightly elevate the grill. Any risk to full removal? I'm thinking I may be overthinking on this one and should leave it alone. Cab sounds glorious, BTW. Can't believe how light it seems, and it's definitely factored by the convenient side handles that make a crouch lift easy.
alexclaber
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By the way, my earlier worrying about breaking in the speaker was much ado about nothing. The cabinet started out sounding great, and it still sounds great. I never discerned a change in the sound so maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, or maybe my ears are shot. Or maybe the sound never changed.
I never noticed a difference... but my back was happier and load in/ out has been easier. Love the two BB3's.
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Maybe it's like cars? I've noticed recent cars don't really have a mendatory break-in period any longer
Do you think that the latest cabs don't really need a break-in period any more, or it's alway been a myth?
- Feb 12, 2006
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My experience is that modern drivers (for bass and PA) change very little with use, the parameters remain remarkably stable. This is not necessarily true of drivers used in some guitar applications, because the materials and adhesives can be quite different. Same goes for some drivers that are older than say 40-50 years.
It's a large part myth with some truth.
I found the Super Twin sounds better with less EQ applied than the cab I was using before. It took a few rehearsals to figure out the "less is more" approach was the way to go.
I'll keep that in mind. I have previously owned two BB2s and a Super Midget. With the BB2s especially, there was a bigger tonal sound field where the lows were especially pronounced compared to the ST. Some have described it as 3D. At first I was skeptical about Alex's theory of doing away with "unnecessary" frequencies, but the ST has particular focus in its sound that may be just right in a live mix. I also chuckled at his description of the ST's tone being "honest." Dang -- I'm becoming aware of that word's technical accuracy!
Thanks!
Maybe there's a kind of "placebo break-in period" for some bassists (not their cab), a period during which THEY need to get used to the new tone…? But let's not tell them - after all, if they think the cab is improving over time and they are happy like that, all is good
Great question! Only used the light beast Six10T once in a live environment…early review.
I'll compare it in bass terms:
My Steinberger and NS Design basses are perfect for studio work and when a 'generic/sterile' tone is the ask. Non-identifiable, just a true bass track without character. Those are the BB3's. Whatever goes through the Neutrik cables is exactly what will come out of the cabs. True, true FRFR with zero colorization.
Having some miles under this old body means I have experience with SVTs. The Six10T is an SVT slayer, no joke. Even using the EA head, I am hearing that "we are gonna play some f*cking rock and roll" tone out of the cab. It gives even Spectors some character.
I have another show this weekend and will run a Genzler Magellan 800 head with it to see what that sound like.
I am 100% confident if you paired the Six10T with an Ampeg head* you would be the talk for the town. And once you factor in the weight and size (≈56lbs vs. ≈135lbs for The Fridge, plus a bit more compact) the choice is easy. All the good, none of the bad.
@alexclaber *This is a legit, timely question: Is an amp on the drawing board? I am asking before possibly dropping $3k to get an Ampeg head. If you are, a two channel option (Ampeg / GK800RB - Classic / Contemporary) switchable feature would be brilliant. And I would be willing to fly over for a couple of days to put it through testing, Q/A, live fire exercises.
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Yup. It takes humans about two weeks to become acclimated to a new situation or object. Move to a new house... takes about two weeks to get used to where the light switches are. Buy a new car... same for the controls/screen, etc. Same goes for a new or different cab.
How is the treble voicing of the ST after playing the BB2 and Super Midget?
