Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[N. Kentucky Bass]

How is the treble voicing of the ST after playing the BB2 and Super Midget?

Obviously, not as pronounced! Alex has described the cone as being able to put out more highs than 4K. I've been running a Noble tube preamp flat, but tried boosting the treble and there was a noticeable lift through the ST. No way near the BB2's range, but it was there if you prefer a boost.

 

[alexclaber]

@alexclaber *This is a legit, timely question: Is an amp on the drawing board

Yes, but I don't know when it will be ready for production.

 

[DavidJamesNHBass]

Yes, but I don't know when it will be ready for production.

An honest, accountable, respectful answer. And having experience with your line of products I would have expected nothing less. Perfection takes time.
BTW, you realize there’s now a throng of bassists who just started feeding their “BF Amp” piggy banks in anticipation of that day?

 

[BigBadBen67]

Just got my Super Twin in. I haven't had a chance to gig with it yet (probably next Thursday as I'm still spewing Covid in every direction). But man does that thing ever sound good. I was using a Fender Neo 410 before. I've always liked that cab for it's warmth and body but this is in a whole different league. It's like listening to a true audiophile stereo for the first time after using a boom box for years. The Fender pairs well with my Super Bassman and sounds ok with my Hartke LX but can never get my GK Legacy 800. It's muddy and that GK zing just isn't there. The BF calmly sounds great with all of them, putting out a fantastic representation of whatever head I put on it. Just what I was looking for.

And I love the fact that it's pretty much exactly the size of two 12" speakers. No waste. I wanted something light and compact for gigging. I don't really slap (unless someone hits me first) so I figured I didn't need the cost, weight, or extra cab size of a horn. Two twelves in a box is strictly business. Just how I like it.

 

[bass08053]

It’s the real deal. I love that you can tonally shape it any way you want. It might be overkill for a lot of my gigs but it weighs less than ONE of my DB112 cabs and it’s on wheels which makes it easy to move around.

Just got my Super Twin in. I haven't had a chance to gig with it yet (probably next Thursday as I'm still spewing Covid in every direction). But man does that thing ever sound good. I was using a Fender Neo 410 before. I've always liked that cab for it's warmth and body but this is in a whole different league. It's like listening to a true audiophile stereo for the first time after using a boom box for years. The Fender pairs well with my Super Bassman and sounds ok with my Hartke LX but can never get my GK Legacy 800. It's muddy and that GK zing just isn't there. The BF calmly sounds great with all of them, putting out a fantastic representation of whatever head I put on it. Just what I was looking for.

And I love the fact that it's pretty much exactly the size of two 12" speakers. No waste. I wanted something light and compact for gigging. I don't really slap (unless someone hits me first) so I figured I didn't need the cost, weight, or extra cab size of a horn. Two twelves in a box is strictly business. Just how I like it.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

New home for the Super Twin. Very nice, focused, full sound. Can't wait for the road test.

 

[68Goldfish]

Tell me if this is a stupid idea or not. Our gigs are generally in small to medium sized bars so I never really go through the PA. So to compensate I generally turn up a bit to get the sound out into the audience. I have a pair of two 10's that, due to some advice in this thread I've considered stacking vertically. My only concern with that is I don't like the idea of the top cabinet being to loud in mine and everybody else's faces since it sit's pretty high. What would happen if I switched the top cab to 12 ohms and the bottom cab to 4 ohms. Would that mean that the top cab would be lower in volume compared to the bottom cab? So if I turned up most of the volume would be coming from the bottom cab. I've been using a Mesa TT800 which has every ohm setting available so it doesn't seem like it would be an issue. I just don't know if it would be worth it or if it would be self defeating somehow. Or if it's just a dumb, unnecessary idea.

 

[RVBASS]

Have you tried stacking them on their sides? I do that with my two BB2s and they sound fine that way. Worth a try.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Have you tried stacking them on their sides? I do that with my two BB2s and they sound fine that way. Worth a try.

Like this:

 

[CalBuzz51]

Tell me if this is a stupid idea or not. Our gigs are generally in small to medium sized bars so I never really go through the PA. So to compensate I generally turn up a bit to get the sound out into the audience. I have a pair of two 10's that, due to some advice in this thread I've considered stacking vertically. My only concern with that is I don't like the idea of the top cabinet being to loud in mine and everybody else's faces since it sit's pretty high. What would happen if I switched the top cab to 12 ohms and the bottom cab to 4 ohms. Would that mean that the top cab would be lower in volume compared to the bottom cab? So if I turned up most of the volume would be coming from the bottom cab. I've been using a Mesa TT800 which has every ohm setting available so it doesn't seem like it would be an issue. I just don't know if it would be worth it or if it would be self defeating somehow. Or if it's just a dumb, unnecessary idea.

Doing that would create a load of 3 ohms, which the amp can handle. However, the bottom cab would be getting 600w, and the top one 200w. The cabs are rated 500w I believe. IIRC there is a note somewhere that they could handle 800w if not overdriven.

I don’t think I would try that with my cabs. I run my 210’s stacked vertical, I play the same size clubs typically. You might try it with normal settings first and see if it works for you. In my experience, the 110 closest to my ear isn’t enough by itself to blow me away, although I know the full array is putting out more sound than that. For me, it’s kind of a perfectly balanced monitor with the rest of the band. YMMV.

 

[chris_b]

How about the bottom cab at the horizontal and the top cab stacked vertically on top? Like an inverted T.

The excellent dispersion of BF 210's meant I was always able to clearly hear mine when they were both stacked horizontally.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

The dome acts semi-independently from the cone at frequencies above ~4kHz. Because of its smaller radiating area it is quieter but if you crank the treble EQ it's absolutely audible up there. Also, because it has much smaller radiating area it does have pretty wide dispersion.

I'm playing two basses through the Super Twin: a Fender Precision w/TI jazz flats and a Fender Jazz w/TI jazz rounds. With the signal set flat, the Jazz bass obviously sounds much brighter than the Precision. However, when I boost my Noble preamp's treble setting about 6dB (@ 3.5kHz corner), the Precision bass is noticeably brighter -- very nice sweet spot! I can add up to 20dB of treble so there's plenty of bright headroom there. I'm used to using full range bass cabinets, and even though the Super Twin peaks at 4kHz, the functionality described by Alex makes this cab more than adequate. I'm surprised how much top end versatility it has. Of course it's not in the same class as a cab w/tweeter and/or compression driver, but I have zero complaints and nothing but praise for the Super Twin's tone (speaking as a ST newbie).

 

[geiger96]

Apologize in advance if I’ve missed one in the 600+ pages here, but does anyone have experience/pictures with stacking a Super Mini on a BB3? Do the cabs line up well if the Super Mini is on its side?

I have a BB3 coming eventually, and if I love it as much as everyone says I will, I think I’ll want a second cab for modularity and stacking at bigger shows. I have some Trickfish cabs that are nice but I don’t want to stack them with the Barefaced and get odd interference. I’d consider selling them and replacing with a second barefaced cab, but the debate is a second BB3 vs a Super Mini.

Thanks all!

 

[BlueTalon]

I have a BB3 coming eventually, and if I love it as much as everyone says I will, I think I’ll want a second cab for modularity and stacking at bigger shows... the debate is a second BB3 vs a Super Mini.

I got my first BB3 earlier this year. For me there is no debate, my next cab will be another BB3. But that's my own answer for me, that doesn't necessarily help you.

 

[RVBASS]

I have two BB2 cabs for the same purpose, modularity, works great for me. I don’t have experience with the Super Mini.

 

[dave64o]

I have two BB2 cabs for the same purpose, modularity, works great for me. I don’t have experience with the Super Mini.

Same for me.

 

[gstaats]

I have two bb3's. Personally, I don't like mixing cabs with different sonic characteristics. The cabs are super light and easy to transport.

 

[Tim1]

My bb2/ sm combo is perfect and I wouldn't change it for two bbs. Great as a stack for bigger venues and I am a huge fan of the added portability of the sm when I just need a single cab. In fact I actually prefer the tone and mid punch of the sm over the bb provided it is partnered with an amp with decent grunt.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Apologize in advance if I’ve missed one in the 600+ pages here, but does anyone have experience/pictures with stacking a Super Mini on a BB3? Do the cabs line up well if the Super Mini is on its side?

I have a BB3 coming eventually, and if I love it as much as everyone says I will, I think I’ll want a second cab for modularity and stacking at bigger shows. I have some Trickfish cabs that are nice but I don’t want to stack them with the Barefaced and get odd interference. I’d consider selling them and replacing with a second barefaced cab, but the debate is a second BB3 vs a Super Mini.

Thanks all!

Is the Super Mini the same as the Super Midget? I've had both. Here's what they look like together:

 

[geiger96]

Thanks for all the responses! Yeah the super Mini is a renaming of the super midget. Do you have any pictures of them stacked? I kind of wanted to see how they align aesthetically. The pics you posted are great for seeing the size difference!

It sounds like most people don’t mind taking the BB3 most places. I sometimes play some smaller brewery gigs where we cram into a corner and a smaller cab works well, but it doesn’t seem like there would be a very appreciable difference between a BB3 and SM as far as that goes. I’m looking forward to trying out just the one BB3 at some gigs to see how it fits in the car and moving around.