Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[monsterthompson]

Thanks for all the responses! Yeah the super Mini is a renaming of the super midget. Do you have any pictures of them stacked? I kind of wanted to see how they align aesthetically. The pics you posted are great for seeing the size difference!

It sounds like most people don't mind taking the BB3 most places. I sometimes play some smaller brewery gigs where we cram into a corner and a smaller cab works well, but it doesn't seem like there would be a very appreciable difference between a BB3 and SM as far as that goes. I'm looking forward to trying out just the one BB3 at some gigs to see how it fits in the car and moving around.

My biggest problem with moving the BB2 was the "bulk" of the external dimensions but not really the weight. It's not the most convenient shape to carry but that gets largely offset by how light it is. I'm assuming a BB3 is fairly similar. Also keep in mind that I have some strength and mobility issues.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

My biggest problem with moving the BB2 was the "bulk" of the external dimensions but not really the weight. It's not the most convenient shape to carry but that gets largely offset by how light it is. I'm assuming a BB3 is fairly similar. Also keep in mind that I have some strength and mobility issues.

This is a good observation. I feel the 40lb SuperTwin is easier to move than the 30lb BB2 (that I previously owned) because of the way the ST's side-handles allow you to easily crouch and lift. The BB2 is more like a one-handed deadlift. Not a big deal if you're Big & Strappin' but something to consider if you have issues caused by health/age.

 

[broncobenshea]

Super Midget (now called Super MiniT) sideways on top of a BB2.

 

[geiger96]

Oh that's a handsome stack! Thanks for the picture, I like that the dimensions line up well.

As far as portability goes, it's not necessarily a capability thing for me (I'm 27 and a frequent gym go-er). However, I'm in multiple bands and move my cabs around quite a bit for different gigs and rehearsals (basement rehearsals usually), so a cab that can make those gear hauls easy and can fit through doors without having to contort your body is definitely a big plus.

My current "portable cab", a Trickfish TF112, is 36lbs. But the big killer is the dimensions. It's width and depth are nearly the same (19x18inches), and with only a top mounted handle honestly makes it quite annoying to fit through doorways while carrying my amp head in the other hand. Carrying outdoors and such is easy for me, but fitting through those tighter spaces is what is interesting to me about the SM.

 

[monsterthompson]

Carrying outdoors and such is easy for me, but fitting through those tighter spaces is what is interesting to me about the SM

The SM is a fun cab. I miss mine and occasionally think about selling my BB2 pair and downsizing since I'm not playing out these days. The biggest trade offs on the SM are the "tweeter" difference (not a huge issues for some) and the amount of deep lows. If you really need/want the big, deep lows then the BB is the way to go. If you can sacrifice that depth and/or output to EQ more deep lows into the SM then the size trade is worth it.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

I've had nothing but good experiences with different Barefaced cabs. They all sound great and have their own unique points. I recall seeing a clip of a reporter interview Elvis Presley during his military period. The reporter asked, "Elvis, what's your ideal girl like." The King replied, "A female, sir." And there you have it: Barefaced it is.

 

[Tim1]

Thanks for all the responses! Yeah the super Mini is a renaming of the super midget. Do you have any pictures of them stacked? I kind of wanted to see how they align aesthetically. The pics you posted are great for seeing the size difference!

It sounds like most people don't mind taking the BB3 most places. I sometimes play some smaller brewery gigs where we cram into a corner and a smaller cab works well, but it doesn't seem like there would be a very appreciable difference between a BB3 and SM as far as that goes. I'm looking forward to trying out just the one BB3 at some gigs to see how it fits in the car and moving around.

Not quite. The Super Mini T is the same as the Super Midget. IMO the Super Midget/Super Mini T is considerably more convenient than the bb but of course YMMV.

 

[gstaats]

I don't have any portability issues with my BB3's. I can carry a BB3 in each hand, my bass on my back and my TT-800 off my shoulder and move my entire rig in one trip. The top handles of the BB3's make it easy. I do wish they had side handles too - but they are so light, it doesn't really matter.

 

[FergyPlaysBass]

I have an SC + SM stack which I love. The two don't visually stack that well, but that doesn't bother me. I'm not generally playing facing the rig, so I can only hear it rather than see it. Most of your audience don't care what your stack looks like. If space and convenience were a big issue for me, I would have no qualms about just taking the SM and perhaps tweaking the EQ of the bottom end if needed.

 

[geiger96]

Thanks everyone! Sounds like I need to get some time with my BB3 once it arrives to understand how portable it feels for my situations. I just ordered it this week, so it will be a little bit for me.

Sounds to me like it varies from person to person, and that the SM is a powerhouse in itself if I decide to add one for modularity. Thanks for all the help!

I'm going to be pairing it with my Trickfish Bullhead 1k. I haven't seen a lot of people with that pairing, but considering how great the head is and all of the power it has, I can only imagine it's going to be a knock out of the park combo.

 

[JohnnyBottom]

Someone say stack? Super Compact/ Super Twin Forte HP. I cant get it better than this.
I never really need the top cab. ( the photo throws the proporations off. sorry)

 

[bottomzone]

That's a sweet Alembic!!!

 

[dave64o]

My biggest problem with moving the BB2 was the "bulk" of the external dimensions but not really the weight. It's not the most convenient shape to carry but that gets largely offset by how light it is. I'm assuming a BB3 is fairly similar. Also keep in mind that I have some strength and mobility issues.

This is a good observation. I feel the 40lb SuperTwin is easier to move than the 30lb BB2 (that I previously owned) because of the way the ST's side-handles allow you to easily crouch and lift. The BB2 is more like a one-handed deadlift. Not a big deal if you're Big & Strappin' but something to consider if you have issues caused by health/age.

My only gripes, if you can call them that, about my BB2's, is the bulk and the handles. I understand the reason for the bulk, so that's the primary reason why I said "if you can call them that". And, my opinion upon seeing the BB3, is that that model solved what I didn't like about the handles.

But the BB2 is still a pretty easy carry for most and the sound is FAR more than enough to overcome these minor "negatives". They've worked magnificently every time I've taken them out. And they've also seriously impressed my band mates as well as other musicians who been in our audiences.

 

[mikeynets]

Quick question: Does a Retro One10 from ~2017 have all the same components and specs as a brand new One10? A used Retro One10 is available locally, but for $100 more I could have a brand new one. Not sure if there's anything between the two. Thanks.

 

[DELACIUS]

Is the Super Mini the same as the Super Midget? I've had both. Here's what they look like together:

I have BB2, BT2 and One10, would love to hear difference in color between BB3 and Mini... can you describe difference?

 

[monsterthompson]

I have BB2, BT2 and One10, would love to hear difference in color between BB3 and Mini... can you describe difference?

It's been a while since I had both, but I'll chime in. My lasting impression was that they were fairly similar with the SM lacking the big, deep lows of the BB2 using the same amp and EQ settings. There was also an overall output difference, but the color was fairly similar. I found the SC to be a bit more mid focused than the SM and/or BB2 using the same amp and EQ settings. Again, not a radical difference.

 

[DELACIUS]

It's been a while since I had both, but I'll chime in. My lasting impression was that they were fairly similar with the SM lacking the big, deep lows of the BB2 using the same amp and EQ settings. There was also an overall output difference, but the color was fairly similar. I found the SC to be a bit more mid focused than the SM and/or BB2 using the same amp and EQ settings. Again, not a radical difference.

Wow so you are telling me that difference between SM and BB2 are not that different... and I could also stack them together? Wonder how that would be comparing to BT2

 

[5StringPocket]

This is a good observation. I feel the 40lb SuperTwin is easier to move than the 30lb BB2 (that I previously owned) because of the way the ST's side-handles allow you to easily crouch and lift. The BB2 is more like a one-handed deadlift. Not a big deal if you're Big & Strappin' but something to consider if you have issues caused by health/age.

Easy crouch and lift with the ST side handles along with the compact size, low weight, and high output limit are what drive my interest in this cab. If I ever feel the need to let my GK Neo IV 212 go at some point I think this would be the one to replace it. I can't ever see the need for more than one of these and a Bergantino Forte HP. The tone that Chris gets in this video would suit me just fine.

 

[monsterthompson]

Wow so you are telling me that difference between SM and BB2 are not that different... and I could also stack them together? Wonder how that would be comparing to BT2

I'm fuzzy on when/where this was discussed, but I seem to recall Alex suggesting that the SM was a good pairing for the BB2, and a better pairing than the SC and BB2 (I hope I remembered this right). There are some pairing threads I found searching for something directly from Alex on this issue. These might be helpful but they aren't what I was looking for, and are more about the SC + BB2. I'll try searching again.

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/barefaced-big-baby-2-vs-super-compact-your-experience.1507923/
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ncd-barefaced-sc-bb2.1244910/

Here we go:
Right from Alex - https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-585#post-26891905

A few others:
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-606#post-27164518
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-588#post-26931878
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-588#post-26931478
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-480#post-23479241
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/official-barefaced-bass-cab-club.868480/page-429#post-22234734

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Easy crouch and lift with the ST side handles along with the compact size, low weight, and high output limit are what drive my interest in this cab. If I ever feel the need to let my GK Neo IV 212 go at some point I think this would be the one to replace it. I can't ever see the need for more than one of these and a Bergantino Forte HP. The tone that Chris gets in this video would suit me just fine.

My preference is for a one-cab solution with at least two drivers enclosed. I prefer the coupling effect for thicker tone and don't want to pay extra to drag multiple cabs around. I'm sensitive to the weight thing because I've got a high dead lift into my pickup truck. A one-arm lift in this scenario is dangerous! I was very close to getting a (much more expensive) lightweight carbon fiber cab, but decided to check out the Super Twin. First thing I did was crouch down and pick it up to test the weight. Because of the crouch lift with dual side handles, the cab soared up by my chest -- wasn't expecting the lift to be so easy! The 40lb lift was actually much easier than a 36+pound powered cab I was using, but with a single top handle. Should have looked into the Super Twin a LONG time ago!