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#1,601
mikeluch said:
Pulled the trigger on a BB2 and a SM. Really looking forward to how they sound individually and collectively as compared to my CN212, and am looking forward to having a modular solution again.
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Let me know how you like the BB2 and SM together. I have a BB2 and have contemplated adding a SM. BB2 + SM is one of Alex's 5 recommended pairings. As he says, SM is a BB2 in a smaller box. Seems like it would be nice for modularity-- could use them together when more is needed, or just BB2, or just the SM when it's a bit smaller.
 
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Plutonium244 said:
Let me know how you like the BB2 and SM together. I have a BB2 and have contemplated adding a SM. BB2 + SM is one of Alex's 5 recommended pairings. As he says, SM is a BB2 in a smaller box. Seems like it would be nice for modularity-- could use them together when more is needed, or just BB2, or just the SM when it's a bit smaller.
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Will do, should have them mid Feb
I plan on using the SM for the practice space, backup to the BB, and to add for larger gigs
 
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I had my 1st gig with a pair of BB2's last night. The rig was: Jule Monique > Crest ProLite 3.0 > BB2's ran in stereo delivering 450w into each cab. I grabbed my ol' faithful Mike Lull M5V and an EBMM Stingray 4 w/ 2 band pre, two basses that I'm very familiar with.

I was very pleased overall. It was different than my CN212 (I'll save the comparisons until I've got a few more gigs on the BB2's) but not quite as radical as I was expecting. I normally run the same rig into the CN212 with the ProLite delivering 875w @ 4 ohms. The loudness between the two was fairly similar with the same settings on my preamp. Next time I think I'm going to try bridging the ProLite for 3150w @ 4 ohms and see how much more clean headroom I can get. Not that it was lacking the way I ran it, I guess I just expected the BB2's to be cleaner than the CN212 at the same settings/volume/yatta yatta.

The Stingray is very aggressive and the M5V can be as well, so we'll grab a few different basses to see how things all work at the next round of gigs. The first gig next weekend I'll play the BB2 stack with either my PJ or the M5V again, the second gig will be a single BB2 and possibly my Roscoe Century 5er w/ Nordstrand Big Singles (it's a fancy restaurant/bar so I'll play a fancy bass).

tl;dr: Cool cabs so far. I need more time to do any real comments or comparisons though.
 
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Dave W said:
I had my 1st gig with a pair of BB2's last night. The rig was: Jule Monique > Crest ProLite 3.0 > BB2's ran in stereo delivering 450w into each cab. I grabbed my ol' faithful Mike Lull M5V and an EBMM Stingray 4 w/ 2 band pre, two basses that I'm very familiar with.

I was very pleased overall. It was different than my CN212 (I'll save the comparisons until I've got a few more gigs on the BB2's) but not quite as radical as I was expecting. I normally run the same rig into the CN212 with the ProLite delivering 875w @ 4 ohms. The loudness between the two was fairly similar with the same settings on my preamp. Next time I think I'm going to try bridging the ProLite for 3150w @ 4 ohms and see how much more clean headroom I can get. Not that it was lacking the way I ran it, I guess I just expected the BB2's to be cleaner than the CN212 at the same settings/volume/yatta yatta.

The Stingray is very aggressive and the M5V can be as well, so we'll grab a few different basses to see how things all work at the next round of gigs. The first gig next weekend I'll play the BB2 stack with either my PJ or the M5V again, the second gig will be a single BB2 and possibly my Roscoe Century 5er w/ Nordstrand Big Singles (it's a fancy restaurant/bar so I'll play a fancy bass).

tl;dr: Cool cabs so far. I need more time to do any real comments or comparisons though.
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Would love to hear more comparisons. I am waiting for my SM and BB2
 
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boristhespider7 said:
OK guys, thinking about purchasing either a Super Twin or a GK Neo410? The Neo410 is a lot cheeper. Anyone got any experience of the 2?
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tallboybass said:
A quick preview...the SuperTwin KILLed every cab I've ever tried in this room, which is one of the worst rooms I currently play in!

Those cabs include: (all GK) Neo 412, Neo 212, MBE410, MB212 combo.
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OK, the only cab of these listed above that is in the same league volume-wise is the Neo 412. The biggest difference is how the SuperTwin sounds while it's being loud. In this horrid, boomy room that I play, usually I'll have to break out a Zoom MS-60B and use the parametric EQ to find and notch a big resonant boom somewhere around 125hz. The 412 was so uncontrollable on the low end I only used it once. Just too much boomyness and it also hurt my back wrestling it around.

The SuperTwin easily handled the large room without being in the PA and with the volume control set lower than usual. The low end was tight and big and supportive in a way I've never experienced in this room! There was no note that stood out like usual...with the other cabs it would usually resonate at around an "A" note, which is hard to avoid, let me tell ya!

Today, my very loud drummer friend came over and we jammed a little. I went ahead and cranked the MBF800 up until I was starting to run out of headroom. The ST took that with no problem and I dare say would handle more, as long as it's clean power.

I'm really amazed that I can run the 'bass' control higher than usual and it maintains a defined tightness that fits in a mix perfectly. Alex, how do you DO that?!

Let me know if I can answer any questions you might have!!

Alan
 
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tallboybass said:
OK, the only cab of these listed above that is in the same league volume-wise is the Neo 412. The biggest difference is how the SuperTwin sounds while it's being loud. In this horrid, boomy room that I play, usually I'll have to break out a Zoom MS-60B and use the parametric EQ to find and notch a big resonant boom somewhere around 125hz. The 412 was so uncontrollable on the low end I only used it once. Just too much boomyness and it also hurt my back wrestling it around.

The SuperTwin easily handled the large room without being in the PA and with the volume control set lower than usual. The low end was tight and big and supportive in a way I've never experienced in this room! There was no note that stood out like usual...with the other cabs it would usually resonate at around an "A" note, which is hard to avoid, let me tell ya!

Today, my very loud drummer friend came over and we jammed a little. I went ahead and cranked the MBF800 up until I was starting to run out of headroom. The ST took that with no problem and I dare say would handle more, as long as it's clean power.

I'm really amazed that I can run the 'bass' control higher than usual and it maintains a defined tightness that fits in a mix perfectly. Alex, how do you DO that?!

Let me know if I can answer any questions you might have!!

Alan
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Sounds just what i'm after! How's the top end? I rarely ever use tweeters, but just how much top end can you get out of this? (I tend to use a lot of pick on a P bass so like some definition from the pick and strings)
 
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boristhespider7 said:
Sounds just what i'm after! How's the top end? I rarely ever use tweeters, but just how much top end can you get out of this? (I tend to use a lot of pick on a P bass so like some definition from the pick and strings)
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If you are used to not using/having tweeters anyway, I'd think it would do fine for your purposes. The Big Twin has a tweeter which is, I think, the same tweeter as in the Big Baby 2, which I have. It's a pretty mellow tweeter, and you can have it all or nearly all the way up without getting any clank or harshness. You can also dial it down, in which case it doesnt kill those frequencies, it redirects them back to the driver, so in essence you can turn the tweeter dial and have a Super Twin, and back again. Versatility. I find the 12" driver they use in all their cabs sound really good with or without the tweeter engaged, in all frequency ranges. Tallboy's assessment seems right on, I'd add in reply to his comments that a Super Twin or Big Twin can, indeed handle more than an MB800 can deliver, it's rated to 1200W RMS.
 
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boristhespider7 said:
Sounds just what i'm after! How's the top end? I rarely ever use tweeters, but just how much top end can you get out of this? (I tend to use a lot of pick on a P bass so like some definition from the pick and strings)
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I'm the same...don't usually use tweeters. It's very present in the highs, actually it just reproduces what you put in quite faithfully. Last night I was playing my Jazz with roundwound strings and a pick. The ST sounded really 'wirey' with all the harmonics well represented, while still maintaining the lows beautifully. I've read about players discussing how their 'less than perfect' technique was put on display by their new equipment and that, surprisingly, is true here as well. It's a quite transparent cab that gives you back what you put into it, from fingers to strings to pickups to bass to amp, it's all on display with a minimum of coloration.
 
#1,618
Whew, just read all 81 pages from start back in 2012. A lot of good talk of BF cabs. Can anyone say what the cut off date might have been, if there was one, of the Gen 2 series of cabs? Did the Gen 3 cabs totally stop the manufacture of Gen 2 cabs? As per the website, there is no info other than the current Gen 3's.

I did finally Googled Big Twin T and was able to see all the specs of that cab, 212's+mid+tweet. Uses the 3012LF's which I believe is what's used in many Ffearful/Fearless and other custom cabs. Correct?

The site states "if you liked the Big Twin, then the Gen 3 "212 or other" is even better due to the changes in, Im guessing, upgraded drivers/xover/build/etc in the Gen 3 cabs. Asking cause I'm wondering if a used Gen 2 BT+T would be all that inferior to most any of the current 212's BF offers? I see they no longer using the 3012LF drivers in Gen 3 and I thought those loaded into a custom cab made it really special. Seems BF's custom drivers are now the beez-kneez.

Thanks for any helpful replies, just kinda window shopping for now. :rollno: Peace, e.
 
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ErnieD said:
Whew, just read all 81 pages from start back in 2012. A lot of good talk of BF cabs. Can anyone say what the cut off date might have been, if there was one, of the Gen 2 series of cabs? Did the Gen 3 cabs totally stop the manufacture of Gen 2 cabs? As per the website, there is no info other than the current Gen 3's.

I did finally Googled Big Twin T and was able to see all the specs of that cab, 212's+mid+tweet. Uses the 3012LF's which I believe is what's used in many Ffearful/Fearless and other custom cabs. Correct?

The site states "if you liked the Big Twin, then the Gen 3 "212 or other" is even better due to the changes in, Im guessing, upgraded drivers/xover/build/etc in the Gen 3 cabs. Asking cause I'm wondering if a used Gen 2 BT+T would be all that inferior to most any of the current 212's BF offers? I see they no longer using the 3012LF drivers in Gen 3 and I thought those loaded into a custom cab made it really special. Seems FB custom drivers are now the beez-kneez.

Thanks for any helpful replies, just kinda window shopping for now. :rollno: Peace, e.
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The introduction of the Gen 3 did, indeed, end production of the Gen 2 cabs. I did see a used Big Twin T for sale probably the same place you did, and wondered the same thing re: sound, quality, fit/finish, etc. I have never seen/heard a Big Twin T in person, so I have no idea how they compare. I do think that the Gen 3 has the new, redesigned custom drivers, so that could make a difference.
 
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I had a Big Baby T and moved to a Big Baby 2, there wasn't a great deal of difference except for the mids. I sometimes had to fight with the mids on the BBT, too much/too little, i felt there was a "hole" about 1k. The BB2 is smaller and lighter, that was the main reason to change, and i don't have any issues with the mids any more. I wouldn't be put off trying/buying a big twin T
edit....I think the word "fight" is a bit strong on hindsight, it was noticeable when you were used to the cab.
 
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