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Official Wren And Cuff Club
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Wren and Cuff
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It put's the trim pot that's inside, on the outside, letting you fine tune the amount of grit. People like it sometimes. IMO it's not necessary for most. All the pro's that use the Phat B as well as myself use it without a knob on the outside but some that really like to ultra-fine tune like being able to adjust it on the fly.
We used to not do any mods but we've started doing a few here and there because we have a couple more employees now which frees myself and Mike (our shop manager/second in command) to do some...
The only catch is that we can only mod the pedals, we can't sell one direct with a mod due to agreements with our dealers. So the pedal has to be purchased new or used, then sent to us for the mod.
To answer your other question, no, I wouldn't go back and add it, I like it just the way it is!
We used to not do any mods but we've started doing a few here and there because we have a couple more employees now which frees myself and Mike (our shop manager/second in command) to do some...
The only catch is that we can only mod the pedals, we can't sell one direct with a mod due to agreements with our dealers. So the pedal has to be purchased new or used, then sent to us for the mod.
To answer your other question, no, I wouldn't go back and add it, I like it just the way it is!
It seems like the Mercy and Phat were made, like most boutique overdrive pedals, to actually overdrive the preamps on tube heads for the sweet sound. I saw that W&C made a point to record one of the full band Mercy samples with the bass DI'd to show the "more than just for tube amps" side, but do any of you guys use either pedal on ss heads, micro or otherwise? Are they still very useful?
Another question: does the volume on the TFR need to be set really high? I had all knobs set to noon at a gig tonight, and when I hit the pedal my signal dropped to well below unity. I'm accustomed to muff pedals with crazy gain on tap...does this one act more reasonably and I just need to crank it up?
I have and use both on SS amps, and they both work excellent. The fact that they push themselves gives that nice break-up type overdrive regardless of the amp. With that said, the Phat sounds phenomenal on tube amps, more than on a SS amp.
Matt designed the TFR to have less gain than the originals to allow more fine tuning. Crank the volume and adjust from there. That's what I do.
i use my phat phuk mostly to drive my old fender bassman 135 into o/d, but sometimes i have used s/s amps in other practise rooms, or out of town gigs when sharing backline. as nero says, it still does a good job on s/s amps. adds a little bit of grit, and brightens up the tone a bit.
yeah, the TFR volume needs to be relatively high for unity, whereas I seem to remember for my old tri pie, unity was very low (before 9 o'clock! - that pedal had insane levels of volume on tap!)
yeah, the TFR volume needs to be relatively high for unity, whereas I seem to remember for my old tri pie, unity was very low (before 9 o'clock! - that pedal had insane levels of volume on tap!)
Wren and Cuff
Commercial User
Just a correction. The output was made like the original units I remade. They all had naturally low outputs. I didn't make the output less than the vint units, just tried to make it the same.
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The TFR was my first dirt pedal, and after sampling like 30 others, it still is my go to fuzzstortion pedal. Never leaving my board!
I have a blend knob on mine as well, which I never use. (but I also parallel blend using a Schism). Still, the blend adds articulation to the signal if you like, you don't use it to add more low end. The TFR has more bass on tap than the clean signal alone. So much heavy.
The TFR was my first dirt pedal, and after sampling like 30 others, it still is my go to fuzzstortion pedal. Never leaving my board!
I have a blend knob on mine as well, which I never use. (but I also parallel blend using a Schism). Still, the blend adds articulation to the signal if you like, you don't use it to add more low end. The TFR has more bass on tap than the clean signal alone. So much heavy.
Will do! I just had to try one out...I don't use fuzz much, so I want to make sure I have the one that works best for me when I do use it.
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This may sound paradoxical in a Wren and Cuff thread, but I generally am not seeking a traditional fuzz sound either. Luckily my Pickle Pie has the versatility to satisfy my non-fuzz desires even if it falls under the broader category of a "fuzz pedal."
Just when I was all content this makes me want to try the Pickle Pie. Maybe I should just buy it and the Phat Phuck B together and save all this debate in my head.
Do you mean because of the blend you can add just a touch of hair? Just curious what would make it sound unlike a fuzz (I've wanted to try one of those for a while too)
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