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Official Zon Club Part 4

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#701
Does Joe make 33 inch scale basses? I thought Tsar from Baja Snake had mentioned while taking lessons he was introduced into the 33 inch scale and was very hip on them ,wich led me to believe that Zon does make them?
Another fellow many clubs back stated he had the smaller frets installed and that made playability better yet.
Gets me wondering what a 33 inch scale with smaller frets would be like .
When I had a momentary lapse of reason and traded my Zon off, the bass I had got in place of it was a 35 inch scale bass.It sounded fantastic but I did notice very much going from 34 inch to 35 inch was harder to play.I have never played a short scale bass but would like to try one .It seems to make sense that a 33 inch scale would be even more comfortable.
 
#702
Last I heard he was against it, and wasn't doing it. He made a 32" scale bass for Todd Johnson, so I imagine you could order a 32", but not a 33" unless something has changed.

Small vs. large frets isn't a playability thing, so much as a feel/sound preference thing. I've had small frets cause playability issues, so it can work both ways.
 
#704
A few years back he resolutely would not and didn't like the idea. The 32" came a few years later.

The way they do things, it requires more tooling being made, so while I can't speak for them, I think that's the resistance (cost vs. very few orders).
 
#705
golower said:
My Zon is the nicest playing bass that I have ever owned .The reason I switched to Modulus and now Zon was due to higher action on wood necks.I still prefer the tone of a maple neck.When I was younger high action never bothered me -all basses were like that .
I was young and did not have injuries to my wrists and arms.
If you happen to come to this thread wondering about Zon,having heard good things and or gathering info about a possible Zon purchase there are a few things that are a fact.Zon basses play extremely well .The playability is the best of any bass that I have played .The construction is flawless.When I went to adjust my truss rod (wich requires taking the neck off) the neck pocket was so tight I had trouble getting it away from the body.The sound from a composite neck is different than that from a wood neck .Any material that an instrument is made from is going to affect tone .Zon basses have a unique tone.Zon necks along with Modulus necks are the most stable neck in the industry.The necks are slim,very comfortable,fast and afford you extremely low action.It makes playing easy,comfortable and more enjoyable.
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I don't think I have read a more compelling user testimony to an instrument maker in recent times! Very well written and credible...

My Best,

Mike
 
#707
I interpreted it as setup stability. Most wood necks IMO with super low action require consistent attention to keep them playing just right. I love that my zons ultra low action is "set it and forget it", to quote an infomercial.
 
#708
Here's a few pictures of Ray Riendeau's 32" scale Mosaic... he has it strung up with piccolo strings right now.

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#710
All in the definition. Properly set up, you shouldn't be able to adjust action, intonation (depending on how the fret is crowned), etc any different on either bass. They feel different, but it shouldn't allow you to set up for your bass any differently.

The neck feeling faster is a preference thing- I preferred the sound of mandolin frets on my Benavente, but they were f'ed when they arrived. I swapped to jumbos, and it is actually easier to play because I don't feel the fingerboard wood as much. Lots of guitarists have the same sense of "faster" with jumbos. All in preference.
 
#711
I just assumed 33 would be the next step down in size from 34 .I wasn't aware Zon made a 32 inch scale .
Iam happy with a 34 inch scale .I would like to try a shorter than 34 inch to see how it was.
 
#712
I have 33"'s (Fodera), 34s, 35s and a 36, and honestly the 33"/34" is a very, very minimal difference. It is hard to really compare across instrument brands and body styles, but the impact on playability is not huge. It is nice, and I like it, but it isn't night and day or anything.
 
#713
Angus said:
I have 33"'s (Fodera), 34s, 35s and a 36, and honestly the 33"/34" is a very, very minimal difference. It is hard to really compare across instrument brands and body styles, but the impact on playability is not huge. It is nice, and I like it, but it isn't night and day or anything.
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The difference, in feel, between a 34 and a 35 is often the way the neck and body work together. Roscoe 35" don't feel as long as my MTD did. I just got a 35" Drozd but have not played it enough determine the feel
 
#714
re : 32 : I've played a 32" Zon 6-stringer, and it was flipping amazing in terms of playability, and the sound was great, no loss of punch that I could detect. If I ever have the luxury of custom-ordering one, it'll be a 32 for sure
 
#717
Got my Zon back yesterday .Very Happy to be Back In The Saddle Again.
 

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tsar nicholas said:
I'm not sure if they've made others yet, but yeah, it was Johnson's headless one. Staggeringly awesome axe, totally changed my view of short-scale "B" strings
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I played Todd's headless 32" TJ6 last year and thought it felt and sounded great. I wouldn't be able to do my different styles cleanly with the tight string spacing though.

Made the couple extra months wait for mine even tougher :)

I'd been playing 35" scaled basses for 10 years before deciding to go w 34" for my TJ6. Honestly it feels great up top and the low end sounds as good or better than my Q6 did.

I'd take a room full of Zons regardless of scale :)
 
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