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Official Zon Club Part 5

#568
Way too much for me. I called Zon to find out what their relief specs are and was informed it's .009. So this bass I'm looking at is almost 4 times as much.

$750 to get it fixed.

I got a great deal on the bass, but with the fix, the total cost would be more than I'm willing to spend.
 
#569
.009" ???

Wow... I had no idea it was that low. I just pulled out my .030" feeler gauge and it seemed pretty thin so I thought it seemed close... I guess not. :D

I like to get a little click from the string hitting the 7-9th fret with it fretted at the first and last frets....

I can feel it when it's right, but it must be thinner than .03".

Crazy.

Sorry it didn't work out for you!
 
#573
Nothing is immovable. Even carbon fiber settles, as does the fingerboard, which is also capable of changes with temperature and humidity. Stuff can settle over 20 years.

I've encountered old Zon, Modulus and Status basses that have perfectly dead-straight necks and some that have positive and negative relief or twist. I have a Sonus 4 from ~91/92 with a neck that never moves, and I think I've adjusted by TJ6 from '06 twice, and my 5 string from ~'10 a couple times. I've never had a neck move/adjust during a cold gig or traveling from one place to another though.

Nothing "doesn't move", though. These just move much, much less than wood-neck basses.
 
#576
Angus said:
All he quoted was the string height at the 7th fret. That could be too much relief or too high of a nut making it feel like the neck has bow. One should make sure the neck isn't shimmed, too.
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Ok... yes, I know the nut will affect the height of the open string but he specifically said the "relief" was 0.03" at the 7th fret and the nut won't do anything to help neck relief or how that affects any fretted notes.

That's why I wondered.
 
#577
Because one does not know if he is actually measuring relief or string height above 7th fret. Since we don't know the specificity of the language he's using, I'm not making any assumptions about what he means, and thus offering another thing to check in case he's stating string height rather than a more-difficult-to-measure neck curvature measurement.
 
#578
I was measuring the relief, capo'd at the first fret and pressed down around the 20th or so.

Martin (from Zon) said the relief their basses ship with now is .009. I didn't ask him what the relief measurement was for their basses shipped out during the '90's.

I had a mid 90's Legacy that the relief was closer to to my preferred height, and was great. I was hoping the Sonus would be the same.

I no longer measure the relief during set ups, opting more for the "feel" of the relief and would guess most of my basses are in the .01 to .015 area. I got out the measuring device today so I could see what the measurement was, exactly, since I was going to both research and place a call into Zon. The .035 relief looks like I could roll a Matchbox car under it.
 
#579
Angus said:
Because one does not know if he is actually measuring relief or string height above 7th fret. Since we don't know the specificity of the language he's using, I'm not making any assumptions about what he means, and thus offering another thing to check in case he's stating string height rather than a more-difficult-to-measure neck curvature measurement.
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Well, he specifically used the word relief and then said the measurement of 0.03" was too high... I think it was pretty safe to assume he was talking about actual relief like he said he was and not string height.

I'm not sure why you seem to be so defensive about my question to you, but it was a reasonable question.

I'm sorry if I said something to doubt your expertise.
 
#580
AudioDwebe said:
I no longer measure the relief during set ups, opting more for the "feel" of the relief and would guess most of my basses are in the .01 to .015 area. I got out the measuring device today so I could see what the measurement was, exactly, since I was going to both research and place a call into Zon. The .035 relief looks like I could roll a Matchbox car under it.
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I've never measured either... It's always been a feel thing for me as well. That's why I was under the wrong impression about the 0.03" measurement with my feeler gauge.

I just grabbed my calipers though, and yeah... the gap looks looks quite a bit wider that way.

Anywhere from 0.01"-0.2" or so seems to be where I like to be as well, with the higher end of that with my more vintage style instruments.
 

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