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Official Zon Club Part 5

Do you know if the Explorer shape will make the Zon roster?

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply it was the first one or anything... what I meant by "crazy" has more to do with the design they decided on.

Check it out...

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There's a single master volume knob on deck... so the bass only has one knob.

The EQ, individual pickup volumes and preamp output gains are all controlled through mini pots in the back of the bass.

It's the ultimate "set it and forget it" rig for someone who is incredibly particular about getting their signature tone, while not having to worry about it anymore while they're playing.
 
I did that with my '92 Sonus 4 about 10 years ago. :D

A very cool bass!! I had no idea he was using Zon- I saw them about a year and a half ago, and he was definitely not using one on stage.
Ha! Why am I not surprised... you have had some CRAZY basses, man.

1.5 years ago or so is probably right around when he got his first bass... so that makes sense. I think they started building it for him a little over 2 years ago.

Do you know if the Explorer shape will make the Zon roster?
I honestly don't know for sure... but my guess is that if you called the shop and told them you wanted one and money wasn't an option, they'd seriously consider it. :D
 
How can you verify if you have a trussrod in your zon? i have a custom sonus 5 built in 2004-2005, has a slightly beefier neck(or fingerboard) then my older zons. hopefully i would not have to remove the neck to check. Feels like the neck has never moved anyway, I am just curious.
As of 2006, all necks have truss rods, so chances are your neck does not have one.

If you want to check yourself to be sure (since you're so close to the cutoff date) it won't hurt the bass at all to take the neck off... the necks have threaded metal inserts and will go on and off a million times without worry. Just make sure you only hand tighten them snugly when you put the neck back on... you DO NOT need to crank the bolts to tighten a neck.

But, if you don't want to do that, you can certainly send an email to [email protected] and if they have your serial # on file, they can tell you for sure.

Give them a few days to reply... sometimes it takes a little bit.
 
Hey folks,

I recently picked up this Zon Sonus Custom Fretless from a chap in Spain (who was the 4th or 5th owner as far as I can tell). It had suffered some misfortune over the years, both the neck and fingerboard were in a bad way, and both the bridge and pickups seem to have been installed off-centre (they are centred to the join of the body wings, but that join runs at a slight angle, which made it all go a bit funny!).
After some hunting we found a bridge that could be better lined up than the horrid Wilkinson that was on it, swapped the knobs, put some black tuners on it as the silver ones looked a bit worn, and then a trusted bass tech sanded the fingerboard back to get rid of the bumps caused by a dodgy make-shift shim and which was causing the neck to be unplayable higher than the 12th without a mega high action (also, the new 'matt' finish it's given the neck is lovely!), and a new neck shim has been added (the neck pocket it way too deep... possibly originally made for a fretted neck, taking the fret height into account).

This one has a truss rod, which is unexpected as it is quite an old one (and the previous owner was convinced there was no truss rod). It's also the first truss rod I've ever seen that requires a socket wrench to adjust as opposed to a hex/allen key!

Anyway, it's back today, looking lovely, plays great. The neck unfortunately is not all that solid, it moves like an average wooden neck - years of abuse is to blame - but I'm not planning on throwing it around anytime soon.

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Crazy story.

There is definitely something odd going on... my guess is that the neck doesn't belong to that body, which is why everything is all wonky.

You can see on the front of the bass where the neck sits in the neck pocket... the neck should be flush to the top of the body there and it looks like it's above by an 1/8" at least.

Does the body have a serial number stamped by the heel?
 
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Crazy story.

There is definitely something odd going on... my guess is that the neck doesn't belong to that body, which is why everything is all wonky.

You can see on the front of the bass where the neck sits in the neck pocket... the neck should be flush to the top of the body there and it looks like it's above by an 1/8" at least.

Does the body have a serial number stamped by the heel?

The neck is high because I have had a shim put in to raise it as such. The neck was flush, BUT the bridge (both the original, and the replacement) saddles had to be lowered to the max to get the action even anywhere near usable, and even that was a 'high action'. Something was not right Like the neck itself was not thick enough at the base, so the pocket was cut deeper.
The line that runs down the body where the two halves join was used to route the pickups etc, but that line is not straight, it curves off slightly to towards the location of the knobs. This means the pickups are not actually in line with each other. The Neck pup is in perfect line with the neck, the brig pick up sits about 4mm over to the right, and the brigade itself was another 3mm further to the right - But all lined up centre to the body join.

This was not detected as the Wilkinson bridge had fully moveable saddles and so they were lined up with the neck perfectly, but the baseplate of the bridge was way off to the side. The challenge was finding a bridge big enough to cover all the holes, whilst sitting dead centre, the TransTone was the only commercially available one that would cut it. The pickups being misaligned does not seem to be an issue output wise, though once the finger ramp is put in between them it becomes obvious that they are not in line with each other.

The neck itself has a tiny hairline crack just outside the pocket. This was from the wrong neck bolt being put in the wrong hole (front 2 bolts are shorter than the back two - and they were mixed up by a previous owner), so the longer bolt was forced into the wrong hole, and pushed the neck to split a tiny bit. This also caused the fingerboard to bump directly above the screw. Screws now put in corruptly, fingerboard sanded and sufficient force applied to the neck to know that that 'split' is not going to be an issue. it's rock solid still IMO, though the neck as a whole is quite sensitive to tension and temperature.

There is a serial number, though it's quite hard to read as the lacquer is thick. I think it is 9408265, though the least 2 numbers are a pain to read!

When the bass came to me, before I did any work, I actually emailed Zon via the website to find out if there was any reason for the off-line pickups and bridge etc, and to find out about it's history, but I didn't get a reply (was before I found this thread!).

While I have you - Any idea what screws are used for the pickups? One is threaded and I'd like to replace, ideally with black ones, though any fresh bolts would be good. I have purchased 3 sets of different bolts and non of them match the thread inserts in the body. It's similar to an M4, but with a tighter thread, and the screw heads need to be tiny to fit inside the holes of the pickups. I'm guessing it's a US sizing, and harder to get here in the UK.

Thanks!

Shep
 
I think your deduction that the bass was previously defretted is probably correct... I'm not going to speculate on anything else since, also as you said, it seems like a lot of hands have been on this bass.

I will certainly try to see what I can find out for you... although I can't make any promises since I do not work at the shop and the serial number records they have aren't perfect.

But I'll see what I can come up with.

Anyway, happy to see you were able to get the bass up and running... it looks badass with the orange coated strings and that MIDI pickup on there!
 
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I think your deduction that the bass was previously defretted is probably correct... I'm not going to speculate on anything else since, also as you said, it seems like a lot of hands have been on this bass.

I will certainly try to see what I can find out for you... although I can't make any promises since I do not work at the shop and the serial number records they have aren't perfect.

But I'll see what I can come up with.

Anyway, happy to see you were able to get the bass up and running... it looks badass with the orange coated strings and that MIDI pickup on there!

Cheers dude, appreciate it!

It certainly looks the part, and it's feeling pretty nice to play as well. I'm not sure about the tonal combination of the DR's and the Zons pre yet, but I'll give it a few weeks to see if it sells itself to me. For appearance alone I'd like to stick with the Orange :)

I do suspect it was defretted, or a fretless neck added after, though I can't be sure. I suspect it's history is a dodgy one! :)
 
howdy everyone,
i played nothing but modulus for years and sold them all off a few years ago due to getting fed up with their customer service. i recently played a show where another bassist let me play his zon for a while. i beleive it was a sonus and it was magical. now im intrigued. just curious if any of you zon experts happen to know which line has the smallest necks - i have smaller hands. ive already started putting some money away :) any advice on dealers would be great as well.
 
just curious if any of you zon experts happen to know which line has the smallest necks - i have smaller hands. ive already started putting some money away :) any advice on dealers would be great as well.
Neck profiles are the same across the lines... so a 4-string Sonus will pretty much feel like a 4-string Legacy. A 5-string Sonus with 17mm spacing will feel like a 5-string Legacy with 17mm spacing, etc.

You'll get into wider necks as you increase string spacing... but all their necks are fairly thin and comfortable to play.

As far as dealers go, it looks like you're in MN... Planet Bass has a few Zon basses in stock. ZON Bass Guitars from Planet Bass in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

If that doesn't work for you, call the Zon shop and they can get you pointed in the right direction for sure.
 
Neck profiles are the same across the lines... so a 4-string Sonus will pretty much feel like a 4-string Legacy. A 5-string Sonus with 17mm spacing will feel like a 5-string Legacy with 17mm spacing, etc.

You'll get into wider necks as you increase string spacing... but all their necks are fairly thin and comfortable to play.

As far as dealers go, it looks like you're in MN... Planet Bass has a few Zon basses in stock. ZON Bass Guitars from Planet Bass in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

If that doesn't work for you, call the Zon shop and they can get you pointed in the right direction for sure.

thanks so much man. i had no idea all the necks were the same. i was pretty blown away by the design/comfort of the neck. that BG model looks freaking awesome with the circuit build right in.