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OMFG! Full POG2 Spec and Qballs / 22 Caliber!!!

#241
FreaqyFrequency said:
Let's turn the tide back toward the Enigma. I'm still highly curious about this device.

It looks like they are basically combining their three most popular filter pedals: the Q-Tron (HP/LP/BP, Q), the MS (Attack, Decay, Start/Stop), and the Bassballs (distortion/sensitivity), and adding a (dry signal?) blend and expression pedal in. Seem correct thus far?

I'm really, REALLY curious about how it will all come together. Probably most curious, though, about what the Expression will control.
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I'd bet that it is much more like Polyphases's envelope side, than the BMS's triggered filter.
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The relative location of the start/stop knobs control the direction of the sweep and the range- You can set the depth and approximate range of the sweep, but it is still envelope controlled with no hardline start/stop points/speed control. And I'd assume that the Enigma's attack/decay work in the same way as on the Meatball and MS20 filter clones. (ie with the BMS the sweep has specific range parameters, and the trigger controls how hard you attack to get it to trigger that specific sweep-- with the Grinder/Photron you set the direction and approximate range of the sweep, and how it responds to your attack, but the sweep is still dependent on your attack and will not produce the exact same sweep on every attack since it is still envelope controlled)

My guess on the exp control is that it will give you a manual sweep. But hey who knows.. I won't be rushing out to buy one, but I can't wait to find out either way!
 
#243
fightthepower said:
I'd bet that it is much more like Polyphases's envelope side, than the BMS's triggered filter.

The relative location of the start/stop knobs control the direction of the sweep and the range- You can set the depth and approximate range of the sweep, but it is still envelope controlled with no hardline start/stop points/speed control. And I'd assume that the Enigma's attack/decay work in the same way as on the Meatball and MS20 filter clones. (ie with the BMS the sweep has specific range parameters, and the trigger controls how hard you attack to get it to trigger that specific sweep-- with the Grinder/Photron you set the direction and approximate range of the sweep, and how it responds to your attack, but the sweep is still dependent on your attack and will not produce the exact same sweep on every attack since it is still envelope controlled)

My guess on the exp control is that it will give you a manual sweep. But hey who knows.. I won't be rushing out to buy one, but I can't wait to find out either way!
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Same designer as the stereo polyphase: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].

He also designed a lil envelope filter some of you may be familiar with: the Musitronics Mu-Tron (as well as the ehx QTron)

[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] he co-authored on envelope filter design - seems like the basic idea for the q-balls (start/stop controls of the parametric filter sweep) has been in his head since 1980 or earlier!
 
#255
POG2 Controls:

Dry
-2
-1
+1
+2
DRY FX (switches application of effects to dry output)
Q (for LP Filter, 4 modes)
Attack (Boss Slow Gear, arco-esque attack/sustain, etc.)
LP Filter, explains itself
Detune, master control for all but bottom (and selectable dry) octaves
8 Programmable Presets + Stomp Switch for selecting

POG:
Input Gain
Dry
-1
+1
+1 Detune
+2
+2 Detune
LP Filter + 3 modes

So, to answer your question, the POG doesn't have the option to remove all effects from the dry output, it lacks a fourth LP mode, an arco-attack slider, and the presets. The POG2, however, lacks the ability to individually control the detuning of octaves +1 and +2, and lacks a variable input gain stage.
 

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