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On crazy guitar solos...

#2
Ones as educated as Buckethead, Steve Vai, Kirk Hammett, etc. are very technical about their soloing.

A lot of other guitarists just hit notes that sound good and wouldn't know the difference between a dorian and a locrian mode if it bit them.
 
#5
Just like playing bass - they hit the notes that are appropriate for the key of the song they're playing. Of course this assumes that the guitar player has any idea about what the key of the song is or how it applies to what they're playing. When all else fails...play pentatonic minor licks really fast.
 
#7
If you want to listen to "technically difficult" guitar solo, that don`t use just patterns, listen to guys like Allan Holdsworth or Shawn Lane. If you want completely the opposite, listen to Yngwie Malsteem.
 
#8
Papersen said:
If you want to listen to "technically difficult" guitar solo, that don`t use just patterns, listen to guys like Allan Holdsworth or Shawn Lane. If you want completely the opposite, listen to Yngwie Malsteem.
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Yes, Malmsteen is very fond of his A and E harmonic minor!

Holdsworth is a real innovator in a sense with his soloing, as he often goes for visual patterns on his fretboard, rather than picking notes according to their sound. In this way, he seeks to emulate the tonality and phrasing of horn players. Quite an interesting listen!

Shawn Lane is just from another planet, he is so incredibly skilled and well versed. Absolutely one of the greatest guitarists to have ever walked this earth.
 
#10
htotheh said:
Well, by solos I don't mean just soloing and improvising (jazzily) on the guitar, but I mean intense 19 note per second soloing. :eek: Like Buckethead...
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Ok. If you look for that kinda stuff, check the following guitar players:

- John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
- Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
- Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr Big)
- Rusty Cooley
- Francesco Fareri
- Stefan Forte
- Michael "Batio" Angelo

Looks for some vids in youtube. It´ll keep you entertained for a while;) Good luck.
 
#11
Rock/Metal guitarists tend to stay within the bounds of conventional "classical" harmony or blues-type playing. Very few players in those genres go beyond (Vernon Reid with Living Color being a great example.), and the faster they play, the more likely they are to stay within those harmonic constraints.

Some newer players in Death Metal (and elsewhere, I'm sure) are branching into more modern (i.e. after 1920) classical harmonies when soloing, but I still haven't heard the 90-mile-an-hour shred guitarists make that jump, outside of jazz players anyway. Mostly, when a player starts soloing using more modern harmonies that quickly, it tends to sound like random playing, or bebop. I think they avoid it as a result. Just my opinion, but it's backed by my experience with guitarists.

To hear shredding that isn't random-sounding, or conventional, I'd recommend Strapping Young Lad, Puya, Living Color, or anything with Al DiMeola in it.
 
#13
You haven't even begun to hear a crazy solo until you listen to King Crimson's Elephant Talk. Adrian Belew is the guitarist, I dont know what he hears but it far beyond what the average joe does, it's incredible. I think that certian people just hear things differently like Vai, Farris and Zappa.
 
#18
Papersen said:
Ok. If you look for that kinda stuff, check the following guitar players:

- John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
- Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
- Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr Big)
- Rusty Cooley
- Francesco Fareri
- Stefan Forte
- Michael "Batio" Angelo

Looks for some vids in youtube. It´ll keep you entertained for a while;) Good luck.
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+1000
I bolded the ones I really like
 
#20
A band to check out along the lines of well thought out guitar solos is Meshuggah. Once you get past the weird tempos and the whole screamie screamie vibe, Frederik Thordendal is extremely influenced by Allan Holdsworth, and his solos really add a ton to the songs.
 

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