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Onboard pre with mid sweep ?

@MAGUS®

Not sure how people have hooked up an EMG system to other pickups. I know there are a bunch of threads on here about it, though. I remember one guy put a system in his Peavey, connected to the VFL pickups....

With Audere, I wouldn't get the Z switch either. People have said it's not worth the extra money, but that's just what I've read. I know I wouldn't need it.
 
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I'm very sorry, I meant to type nordstrand. Suffering from brand overload and coffee shortage. I have the 3 band nordy in the bass in my avatar. Very versatile pre. Love it.

@MAGUS®

Not sure how people have hooked up an EMG system to other pickups. I know there are a bunch of threads on here about it, though. I remember one guy put a system in his Peavey, connected to the VFL pickups....

With Audere, I wouldn't get the Z switch either. People have said it's not worth the extra money, but that's just what I've read. I know I wouldn't need it.

Thanks scuzzy - yeah i thought i'd missed something the Bart webby.

Need to check the Popes and now the Nordy too. Another thing would be what's available in the UK. We get royally stung by the VAT bar stewards , also known as Customs & Theft , when buying from the U.S.
 
I'd go Mike Pope or East. Being that you are in the UK. East would probably be a slam dunk. I love my uni-pre. Almost too many tweakable options.

Yup, i considered that early on, and i suppose buying from the UK ( and Europe, while we havent left yet ) makes sense, but i guess i'm being picky because i fancy a different preamp to anything i already have.

An Audere or even a Demeter, at $200 a pop each, will translate to about $300+ by the time uk Customs get their greedy little fingers on their pound of flesh.
But this is a good price compared to East's Uni Pre. at over £200 ..about $300+

The Pope would be much more, as its 33% more expensive than the other two, so would equate to around $400+
 
Popes are well expensive so maybe not.

The Nords are again, fixed freqs, but you can determine which freqs you desire.

So far, the Audere Classic is looking on top.

Did you decide you didn't need a midsweep? Because AFAIK it isn't an option for the Pope, Audere or Nordstrand. The Audere has high and low mid controls plus the Z switch and the Pope has high & low mid controls that can both have frequency selectors but none of them actually have sweepable mids.

If that's a must have then I think John East is your best bet. His preamps have been the only ones with sweepable mids that I've really liked. Much more do than than Noll.
 
Did you decide you didn't need a midsweep? Because AFAIK it isn't an option for the Pope, Audere or Nordstrand. The Audere has high and low mid controls plus the Z switch and the Pope has high & low mid controls that can both have frequency selectors but none of them actually have sweepable mids.

If that's a must have then I think John East is your best bet. His preamps have been the only ones with sweepable mids that I've really liked. Much more do than than Noll.


I checked the Pope, and found no mid sweep, but its also $100 more than all the others. So no go.
The Nord again, i've already stated are fixed freqs

The NOLL is mid sweep but that jack socket is a problem for basses with side mounted jacks

I only looked at the Audere Classic 4 band ( low and high mid pots ) not the Z pre. Nowhere on the site does it
state that the high and low mids are fixed freqs. So i assumed they're sweep mids

Audere Audio
 
Although I haven't bought one yet (I'll probably get two - one for my Samick, and one for my Douglas) I found a Tone Monster SBK preamp for my two four-pot basses that had a volume, blend, stacked bass/treble and mid/sweep knobs so I didn't have to drill any more holes - and they don't break the bank either.

Granted, my basses aren't worth used what some other name-brand preamps are, but play and sound decent enough to warrant spending $50 on them to get the option for better midrange control, especially my Samick. So eventually when I get around to it I'll be able to provide my own review on these pre's.

Raz
 
Info found on Audere site

I'm not sure i fully iunderstand. Is the low mid 250hz freq just the peak, and it sweeps either side, or is it fixed at 250 ? If its fixed at 250hz, how can this be wide bandwidth , as they state ? I may be misunderstanding the nature of how electronics work

PS same question about the high mid too

Mid-range controls use wide bandwidths - the issue with narrow bandwidths is the phase shift changes too fast vs. frequency and they sound artificial while our wide frequency mid-range controls is more musical.


4 Band
1st Mid Peak Hz - dB 250 +/- 10 dB 500 +/- 10 dB
2nd Mid Peak Hz - dB
750 +/- 10 dB

The 3 band mid range frequency switch moves the frequency of the Mid range control to 250, 500 or 850 Hz.



 
Info found on Audere site

I'm not sure i fully iunderstand. Is the low mid 250hz freq just the peak, and it sweeps either side, or is it fixed at 250 ? If its fixed at 250hz, how can this be wide bandwidth , as they state ? I may be misunderstanding the nature of how electronics work

PS same question about the high mid too

Mid-range controls use wide bandwidths - the issue with narrow bandwidths is the phase shift changes too fast vs. frequency and they sound artificial while our wide frequency mid-range controls is more musical.


4 Band
1st Mid Peak Hz - dB
250 +/- 10 dB 500 +/- 10 dB
2nd Mid Peak Hz - dB
750 +/- 10 dB

The 3 band mid range frequency switch moves the frequency of the Mid range control to 250, 500 or 850 Hz.

Wide/narrow frequency bandwidth should refer to the "Q"

The bottom line speaks of the mid range frequency switch so it's switchable not sweepable
 
Info found on Audere site

I'm not sure i fully iunderstand. Is the low mid 250hz freq just the peak, and it sweeps either side, or is it fixed at 250 ? If its fixed at 250hz, how can this be wide bandwidth , as they state ? I may be misunderstanding the nature of how electronics work

PS same question about the high mid too

Mid-range controls use wide bandwidths - the issue with narrow bandwidths is the phase shift changes too fast vs. frequency and they sound artificial while our wide frequency mid-range controls is more musical.


4 Band
1st Mid Peak Hz - dB
250 +/- 10 dB 500 +/- 10 dB
2nd Mid Peak Hz - dB
750 +/- 10 dB

The 3 band mid range frequency switch moves the frequency of the Mid range control to 250, 500 or 850 Hz.

The Audere is the same as the Aguilar - fixed frequency but selectable using different capacitors.

There may be others by Noll and East are the only preamps I know that have sweepable mids.
 
I'm not sure i fully iunderstand. Is the low mid 250hz freq just the peak, and it sweeps either side, or is it fixed at 250 ? If its fixed at 250hz, how can this be wide bandwidth , as they state ? I may be misunderstanding the nature of how electronics work

The specific frequency they are mentioning is called the 'center frequency'. So this type of control not only affects the center frequency but also frequencies above and below it.

This is typical of mid-frequency tone controls. (Sometimes bass and treble controls are configured somewhat differently and are called shelving tone controls.)

The bandwidth is how much of the frequencies above and below the specified frequency are affected. A wide bandwidth affects a broader range of frequencies both above and below and a narrow bandwidth affects a smaller range of frequencies both above and below.

If a tone control only affected one single frequency (which is almost impossible) it would be considered an extremely narrow notch filter. Even with an extremely narrow notch filter it will affect more than just one frequency. And an extremely narrow notch filter would have an extremely narrow bandwidth.
 

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