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[seamonkey]

Just to clarify - no.

HT (High Tension) lines run on very high voltage but generally do not carry high current - the current is kept low so as to prevent the lines from heating up. Conversely the electromagnetic force on a current-carrying conductor in a magnetic field depends on the current and the strength of magnetic field - not the voltage.

tl;dr - high voltage lines have low current, therefore they will not vibrate

In relationship to their voltage they're carrying low current, but in relation ship to say current going into 15 amp line - they're are carrying hundreds of times this. They're not running static electricity - it's flowing current.

There is no such effect as describe in any journal. It would be measured and reproducible by now.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

Some people have 'proven' that all poweramps sound the same, and I KNOW that to be complete and total nonsense...

It's nonsense to claim that anyone has "proven" that.

You claimed to be a skeptic, but that isn't evident in your posts in recent years that defend snake oil claims.

 

[seamonkey]

if you have a 40+ mph headwind...or if you are on ice...

And 'belief' is quite a powerful argument, even, sadly, today in politics.

Some people have 'proven' that all poweramps sound the same, and I KNOW that to be complete and total nonsense...

Cheers,
Cameron

Here's an easy $10,000 for you
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Let us know how you do.

 

[JAUQO III-X]

How many people here has actually spent some time with a ESP power cord?

 

[lomo]

How many people here has actually spent some time with a ESP power cord?

I know it's extensive, but if you read through earlier posts you'll find that a few have tried it, most have not, and many (myself included) are of the opinion that it's claims are beyond the realm of what is known to be possible based on the laws of physics and the accumulated knowledge of engineering. For that reason we are only ready to believe if it is properly, blindly and objectively shown to make a detectable difference. We're waiting for that. I think this is likely my last post to this thread, unless and until someone claims to have done a well-planned objective experiment.

 

[JimmyM]

How many people here has actually spent some time with a ESP power cord?

jauqo, if someone makes an outrageous claim, it's on them to prove it to us with facts. it's not on us to be open-minded enough to buy one and try it out. so far, esp hasn't given one scientific fact. if there is an improvement, it should be able to be measured scientifically. but their lack of any sort of proof other than vic's endorsement, plus all the ee's on here explaining scientifically why it wouldn't work as they say, and i'm on the side condemning it without trying it. there's enough people trying to get my money with legit products that i don't need to buy any that are iffy.

 

[JAUQO III-X]

I know it's extensive, but if you read through earlier posts you'll find that a few have tried it, most have not, and many (myself included) are of the opinion that it's claims are beyond the realm of what is known to be possible based on the laws of physics and the accumulated knowledge of engineering. For that reason we are only ready to believe if it is properly, blindly and objectively shown to make a detectable difference. We're waiting for that. I think this is likely my last post to this thread, unless and until someone claims to have done a well-planned objective experiment.

I have but I meant all the individuals who are saying that it's voodoo.

jauqo, if someone makes an outrageous claim, it's on them to prove it to us with facts.

Ok. But why can't ones own ears be proof enough.

 

[aborgman]

How many people here has actually spent some time with a ESP power cord?

I haven't spent any time with an ESP power cord.

I have spent several years getting an engineering degree, and even longer working as an engineer though.

 

[lomo]

Ok. But why can't ones own ears be proof enough.

The answer is a matter of logic and has been exhaustively explained earlier in the thread.......and that was REALLY my last post, LOL.

 

[aborgman]

Ok. But why can't ones own ears be proof enough.

Because our ears (well, our ears and how our brain interprets their information) have proven to be almost completely fallable.

Never mind humans massive tendency to be biased, subconsciously, by things.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

I have but I meant all the individuals who are saying that it's voodoo.

They're the individuals who've spent considerable amounts of time with wires and circuits, no?

Ok. But why can't ones own ears be proof enough.

That actually would be proof. An actual double-blind test (IOW, relying on ears only) would prove that the ESP does things that a power cord has previously been known to be incapable of doing. A sighted test would not rely totally on one's ears.

 

[billfitzmaurice]

Ok. But why can't ones own ears be proof enough.

If there was no such thing as placebo effect there would be no such word as 'placebo'. Nor companies like ESP, for that matter.

 

[Mulebagger]

20 years of carpentry tell me that some clubs and bars are so poorly wired that it's a crap shoot what quality of juice you are going to get when you plug in. Couldn't a good power conditioner make for optimal power?

The last few feet of cord before my amp shouldn't make any difference unless it is poor quality or faulty.

My question is why do they cost so darm much when a great heavy duty power cord for my Aguilar only cost me $40 ish when I lost mine.

I do hear a difference in bass cables and speaker cables, but never heard much difference in power cords. I'll keep my cash instead.

 

[davec]

I'll chime in. I went to Jauqo's practice spot with my son and a freind. I could hear a difference. My friend could hear a difference, my son could not. I woulld not spend $150.00 for a power cable, but I did go out and buy a thick gage better insulated power cable for my amp. If my income was based off of playing music, I would likely buy the ESP cable. I did notice a more full sound when I replaced the cheaper thinner cable that came with my amp.

I just got a great used Sukop, my son plays a lefty SX. They both do the samething and I can't "prove" that mine sounds better or worse, but I know which one I prefer...

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

I'll chime in. I went to Jauqo's practice spot with my son and a freind. I could hear a difference. My friend could hear a difference, my son could not. I woulld not spend $150.00 for a power cable, but I did go out and buy a thick gage better insulated power cable for my amp. If my income was based off of playing music, I would likely buy the ESP cable. I did notice a more full sound when I replaced the cheaper thinner cable that came with my amp.

This is an example of a sighted test (i.e., not "ears only").

Could you hear a difference in a double-blind test?

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

20 years of carpentry tell me that some clubs and bars are so poorly wired that it's a crap shoot what quality of juice you are going to get when you plug in. Couldn't a good power conditioner make for optimal power?

If the power is that iffy, then it's actually a fire hazard. Lost power turns into heat, and lots of lost power means a lot of heat is being produced somewhere. A power "conditioner" won't help.

My question is why do they cost so darm much when a great heavy duty power cord for my Aguilar only cost me $40 ish when I lost mine.

That's still pretty expensive, unless it's really long.

I do hear a difference in bass cables and speaker cables, but never heard much difference in power cords. I'll keep my cash instead.

Unless the "bass cables" and speaker cables you're comparing are defective, you won't hear a difference. And the same goes for power cords.

 

[guy n. cognito]

I'll chime in. I went to Jauqo's practice spot with my son and a freind. I could hear a difference. My friend could hear a difference, my son could not. I woulld not spend $150.00 for a power cable, but I did go out and buy a thick gage better insulated power cable for my amp. If my income was based off of playing music, I would likely buy the ESP cable. I did notice a more full sound when I replaced the cheaper thinner cable that came with my amp.

I just got a great used Sukop, my son plays a lefty SX. They both do the samething and I can't "prove" that mine sounds better or worse, but I know which one I prefer...

With all due respect, I'm guessing you heard a difference because Jauqo told you you heard a difference.

 

[B-string]

If the power is that iffy, then it's actually a fire hazard. Lost power turns into heat, and lots of lost power means a lot of heat is being produced somewhere.
[snip]

And your point Still can't get club/bar owners to repair or rewire overloaded circuits. We have two places we play that have no covers on the outlets, one was hanging loose till I brought in screws to secure it!

 

[JAUQO III-X]

With all due respect, I'm guessing you heard a difference because Jauqo told you you heard a difference.

As a matter of fact I said nothing and I have never said anything on my thoughts in regards to the ESP power cord,if you're trying to imply that I put a gun to someones head and made them think they heard the opposite of what they really heard, then you sir are way off base.





Dave happens to be his own man. He doesn't need me to tell him if there is or isn't a difference in sound.

 

[guy n. cognito]

As a matter of fact I said nothing and I have never said anything on my thoughts in regards to the ESP power cord,if you're trying to imply that I put a gun to someones head and made them think they heard the opposite of what they really heard, then you sir are way off base.





Dave happens to be his own man. He doesn't need me to tell him if there is or isn't a difference in sound.

No, you misunderstand my comment. When someone performs a A/B test, and the test taker is aware that item A is a run-of-the-mill item and B is a "professional-grade" item, their eyes are likely to trick their ears to thinking they hear something they don't.

Reread my previous posts in this thread. It's easy to trick even the most golden of ears.......a fact that these type of manufacturers depend on.