Opinions

[Neveragain55]

I've been a member of this forum for a few months now and I really enjoy it, I've made several comments about several basses & several subjects, and I've gotten some great advice.

Unfortunately I've seen many posts & threads where people's opinions about certain instruments causes others major heartburn.

I've also seen people get extremely offended over these written expressions of frustration, hate or love over instruments, and what ensues are nasty back & forth's that don't seem to benefit anybody.

All of us do what we do out of love for music (I hope) and all of us feel passionate about the instruments "we" play while others may have a completely different opinion about those instruments.

Thing is, we're each entitled to those opinions (negative & positive) the trick is in creating posts that gets to the heart of the matter without disrespecting others in the process.

How about we all just respect the fact that everybody is going to own, use, play, and love different tools…..and call it a day.

Tolerance & respect folks…………makes the world spin a lot smoother

 

[gfaulkner]

Right on my brother,right on!!

 

[bholder]

Stamp Out Intolerance!

 

[strictlybass_ic]

I disagree with a single, subtle point within your post. I will now proceed to condescend/contend point-by-point until I feel you have been shamed beyond the point of re-posting.

That's how forums work right?

 

[M.R. Ogle]

I've not seen the love/hate thing pertaining to instruments be much more than an annoyance. Where I HAVE seen people get really aggressive is in discussions of physics and theory about what makes things tick... areas without clear boundaries or hard-and-fast rules. (ahem...tonewood?) Everyone has their opinions, experience and observations, and there's always someone ready to tell them they're wrong...vehemently.

 

[BassHappy]

Even in the best of worlds here on the forum - one person's ultimate jewel or holy grail can simply be be another person't yawn. That is the nature of things. What a boring world if we were all attracted to the same things. So, yes, showing respect and embracing another's point of view is paramount to peace and harmony on TB. It's fine to disagree, disagreements can provide the key to a deeper understanding - be respectful - many of us have some sizable investments here - both emotional and financial.

 

[Boom762]

I think a little ranting and opinion bombs can be healthy for both sides. I think maturity brings about a lot of the type of acceptance you're talking about. I used to be a "Metallica or it sucks", then I was a "Fingers or they can't play", to a "pointy basses forever" and now Im in the "I wish I could play that round bass with a pick like that".

I don't think I've ever been offended on this forum. I've had differences of opinions of course, but I never felt mistreated or abused.

 

[Polfuste]

I've always seen these kind of reactions on any forum. Nothing to do with that: internet will never be the smoothiest peacefull place for point of view differences. If you don't like my toys, that's not a problem for me. If you are agressive in your replies, i will just ignore you and won't feed you troll attitude. That's not easy in first; i've had some hard times with that. But now that i act like i described, no more drama.

 

[Neveragain55]

All excellent comments, seriously...and some of you have written some things I hadn't thought about that have caused me to see things from a different perspective which is always a good thing.

I'm glad you guys liked the post.

 

[MJ5150]

The key is not the comment, but how you deal with it.

-Mike

 

[2.6kHz]

People just overreact. People have to remember that just because someone doesn't agree with you on something, doesn't mean they hate you. Cuts both ways too, sometimes people need to remember to attack what was said and not the person that said it.

People also only tend to see what they want to see in a post. In a recent topic I kept talking about how straight grained wood with close grain lines per inch is stronger than other types of wood, and people kept thinking I was talking about tone. Never used the word tone once, but whatever.

The more interesting posts are the ones where people question easily verifiable facts. You know, the guy who read a wiki page so he knows more than an engineer with decades of experience kind of posts. The guys who argue with agedhorse about how amplifiers work crack me up.

 

[mpdd]

people start to get a little grumpy and butt hurt around this time of year, after all it's getting back over 80 degrees around LA and it's still snowing in Pittsburgh

 

[yodedude2]

if there's one thing i can't stand, it's intolerance!

oh, and this: Invalid Link Removed

 

[tangentmusic]

You know what they say about opinions:
Their just like a certain body part - Everyone's got one.
Some people just act more like that certain body part than others..

 

[6jase5]

You want to see opinions turn ugly, try a cooking/baking forum where they get in to the sugar versus alternatives or oil versus butter versus applesauce fights. I laugh when I hear people at TB thinking that we get a bit testy.....those tart baking grandmothers and other amateur chefs are prepping spatula shanks. We are a but a tame group of artisans in comparison.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

I had a teacher back in art school who told us it's just as important to know what you don't like as it is to know what you like. If everything is good than you're destined for mediocrity. So I'm not offended by anyone's opinions.

I've had a few TB battles that got out of hand and I acknowledge my part in how they went south because I offended people. It can quickly turn into a downward spiral of defending yourself or proving someone else has flawed logic. Now I try identify when a discussion is headed that way and say "That my opinion so let's agree to disagree. No hard feelings and rock on, brother." Or something like that. I can now see when other people take hard stances because it helps them focus on what's important to them. To me, that's fine. I assume they don't really mean to offend anyone so the people who are offended have to share at least some of the blame.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that both sides have to cut each other some slack. We're all just here to have fun. And for some people what's fun is slaying sacred cows.

 

[48thStreetCustom]

people start to get a little grumpy and butt hurt around this time of year, after all it's getting back over 80 degrees around LA and it's still snowing in Pittsburgh

Plus, it's tax season.

 

[JustForSport]

There's opinions, facts, and opinions about those facts.

I try to learn from other's opinions and experiences, and also from found facts.

 

[LiquidMidnight]

Sometimes things get a little testy, such as the battles that erupt in the Amps forum, but it's still calmer here than 95% of the other places on the Internet where people can exchange ideas (that are often little more than brain farts). I was checking out some videos last night on YouTube about fighter planes, having been interested in military hardware when I was growing up. Some of the arguments in the comments section made me question the longevity of our species.

 

[bolophonic]

So does this mean that every time someone get on here to say that its their "opinion" that 10" speakers are "faster" than 15" speakers, which "go lower" than 12" speakers, that poster will get a special snowflake award that their feelings are just as important as someone who knows what they are talking about?