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Over-population.

I'm not argueing the paris hilton is smart, but she was savvy enough to make millions out of being a b list celebrity. And I don't think her parents came directly from war torn bosnia, I think her parents were already rich when she was born?

That was my point. Her "success" was due to her being a rich party girl at an age where most women are going to college or trying to make ends meet on their own. Had she been born in Bosnia her life would have been very different. This idea of the "cream" rising is ridiculous. Life is hard, no complaining about that, but the idea that people are successful based on their genetic intelligence is simply not true on either side.

Actually their is a genetic correlation for intelligence. I was watching some study on early man. According to this show the human race was on the verge of extinction at one time because of stupidity.

You missed my point. I have no doubt that to some extent (much debate about how much), intelligence is heritable. What I was saying was that science has not found those precise genes that would determine intelligence. Which means that we lack the ability to have genetic testing for intelligence either of people or their potential offspring. Absent of that, how can there possibly be forced sterilization for people based on your criterion of not being smart enough?

My whole argument is that by and large the stupidest people on the planet are producing the most offspring, unnaturally, because our economic and social constructs allow them too. Whereas in nature, left to fend for themselves, only the strongest and smartest pass on their genetic material. To me this equals that the human race is de evolving or at least at an evolutionary halt.

Again, you are misunderstanding biology. Forced selective breeding is not the same as evolution. Natural selection is not a process towards perfection. A classic example is the peppered moth which traditionally had light coloration which helped it avoid detection from predators among the light lichens in its habitat. A mutation caused some to be darkly colored which made them more easily discovered and eaten. But after the industrial revolution, when the trees were covered with black soot, the population of these dark moths skyrocketed. They weren't smarter, faster or more intelligent, simply better suited to their environment.

Likewise with sickle cell anemia which is a debilitating condition caused by a mutation in red blood cells, causing them to be inefficient carriers of oxygen. Yet an individual who is heterozygous (inheriting one normal gene and one sickle cell gene) have misshapen blood cells which still function but provide protection from malaria from mosquitoes. Again, not an advancement, but a better ability to survive in a malaria stricken environment.

From a biological perspective, any animal that can produce large amounts of viable offspring that can survive to procreate is actually succeeding. If anything, your views are the social constructs.
 
I see it as a nice math problem with optional inputs for "number of humans alive" as a constant dynamic.
The bringing up of eugenics was a nice one for this thread.
We also have an entire century of state-sponsored reductions of that number: Invalid Link Removed

Not to worry. The overseers are already working on this problem.

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There are many others concerned about too many to control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_control
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images


Good luck and happy hunting.
 
Actually what I'm saying is not really an argument but a statement of fact. The reason people are getting upset with me is because they know that it is logical and undeniable.

None of your arguments are logical or undeniable and they certainly are not fact. There is no such thing as fact when is comes to science, maybe if you understood science, you would know that. The fact that you quote a SHOW just demonstrates how dumb your argument really is.

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I would argue that the poorest people are by and large the least intelligent segment of most populations, as intelligent people find a way out of being poor. This leaves the poor right where they are to breed and produce more unitelligent poor people.

I know a lot of people will see the above very unsavory.

Like Sam Kinison said in his comedy act: "This is sand, you know what's it's going to be a thousand years from now? Sand! Move where the Fing food is!"

If only these unintellegent people could get/afford and education then they wouldn't be so unintelligent anymore?
 
Johnny, thanks for posting this. I do dig the work that Alex Jones is doing to try and expose this crap and get us to wake up and smell the apathy.

as for you ric, well, I guess you've got your row to hoe and obviously there are some things you've encountered that have lessened your respect for life, innocence, and compassion towards your fellow man.

there is no "fact" to your argument(s). and the day you even speculate at "what use is a life"... it's life!!! for f*@k sake it's life!!!! to be so pompous as to dictate whether another humans 'spark' is of value... debate is one thing but to honestly think what use is a life if it's not contributing to society , that is inhumane in it's truest meaning.

I see it as a nice math problem with optional inputs for "number of humans alive" as a constant dynamic.
The bringing up of eugenics was a nice one for this thread.
We also have an entire century of state-sponsored reductions of that number: Invalid Link Removed

Not to worry. The overseers are already working on this problem.

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Good luck and happy hunting.
 

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