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Overhyped Features You Just Had to Have

Hear, hear! I wanted one so bad I could just barely put up with it, then when I bought a German Corvette (maybe one of the skinny-necked Thumbs would've been different, but I doubt it), I couldn't sell that thing fast enough. I hated everything about it after one day, haha!

Mine was also a German Corvette. I traded in an SVT 8x10 (that I paid $90 from a want-ad digest posting) toward it which I still regret. It sounded good and I recorded with it but couldn't get use to the radius. I traded that Corvette in toward my first P bass.
 
if you would like to see it used, please send to me. I will send weekly videos of it being played. :woot:
Agreed! I did away with my upright because I couldn't justify the space it was taking up and maintenance (I'm not a real upright player, just occasional oldtime/bluegrass jams/gigs), and a fretless Thunderchief with nylon tapes and mutes totally does the job with a fiddle, fingerstyle guitar and clawhammer banjo, or a full-tilt bluegrass band through a battery powered amp. They're unobtainium now, so I think I'll have to settle for the Boulder Creek...
 
I have a few overhyped things that I craved (or believed) but found didn't live up to the dream;
  • Active electronics
  • Acoustic bass guitars
  • Blank fretboard (no markers)
  • "Avoid Fender"
  • "Never use flatwound strings".

But I also have a list of things that I really craved that have become absolutes for me;
  • 1.5" nut width
  • Passive
  • Hum-cancelling pickups
  • Light weight
  • No neck dive
  • No dead spots
I have 2 basses right now. A medium-scale Warmoth P bass with a 1.5" neck and a Warmoth J with hum-cancelling PUs. I am happy. The ONLY reason I'd add a bass to my collection would be to have another P that would wear flats.
 
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I think everybody, especially newbies, gets caught up in hype, and goes crazy for features on basses and amps that are not really necessary.
Back in the Seventies and early Eighties, I just swore I needed a 24 fret bass for "soloing and more expressive" playing, after all, Stanley Clarke had a two octave neck, didn't he?

The irony was that I was playing by ear and didn't know the notes on the fingerboard, and I only had basic knowledge of chord structure. In other words, I had none of the skills needed to make use of extended range.

I also think about Steinberger and graphite necks for stability. Heck, I was afraid to touch a trussrod, and did not understand intonation. When you are a bedroom player 90% of the time, as was for the first 17 or 18 years of playing, you can wallow in ignorance a long time.

The bottom line is the more I got out and started playing, the more it really sank in that the player, not the bass, makes the difference.

I'm really not sure where to start so I'll use my latest example:

Quad coil pickups with 3 way switching- I thought I'd get "three basses in one" but just leave the selector in the mid position which provides the fullest signal.

(note that these are Delano pickups with a narrow aperture and a P/reverse P/quad setting- it would probably sound AMAZING if the pickups were 4 inches wide)
 
Actually, vintage Fender gear might be the most overhyped of all....

And I like Fender.
I couldn't agree more. If you're a collector, or just appreciate how cool rare old stuff is, I fully understand the desire for it. If you're going to claim that old Fenders are superior to new instruments machined to .005" tolerances with 50+ years of experience regarding electronics, shielding, fit/finish, structural evolution, etc... You're dreaming. Hell yeah, they're cool, but the fact is you can buy a better instrument than nearly all the old Fenders (and Gibsons, Rics, whatever) for like 3 or 4 bills, upgrade the electronics and hardware for another couple, and have 10 times the instrument that a 10,000 dollar vintage axe is.
 
These are what I got hung up on and how I feel about them now.

A known and respected headstock logo, now as long as it does what I need it to I don't care what brand it is or isn't.

EMG electronics, not just active, just EMG as a brand. Not totally against them, but not crazy about them.

Coated strings, huge waste of money for me.

Colored strings, also a waste in that the color wears off fast.

Monster cables, ruin all your jacks right now!

Aftermarket high mass bridges, once thought they were really necessary for good tone. Now I realize they only serve to make the bass heavier in weight, not sound.

Just my thought on the topic.

As per TB rules, the above is all IMHO, YMMV.
 
I, thankfully, didn't get too gear-obsessed until after I'd been playing long enough to have a REASONABLE handle on what worked and didn't work for me. I can remember just desperately needing one of those 3-button SansAmps because I was in a rock band and used a standard-tuned bass, a 1-step-down bass, and an acoustic in our sets, and it would theoretically let me set up all the eq and levels and stuff and swap out lightning-fast. From what I understand, it would've done just that had I learned how to use it, but I never did because I'm a neanderthal, got frustrated, and gave it to a guitar player buddy of mine who had joined a band as a bass player.

I've never been much on effects (I've always had and continue to have some assortment of an overdrive, an envelope filter mostly just for fun, and a compressor), but I became convinced I had to have one of those big multi-effects processors. Predictably, it was way too confusing to use and I dumped it almost immediately.

The dumbest and most expensive thing I ever erroneously decided I had to have was a big dumbass tour ready rig (granted, the band I was in did go on a brief section of a tour with some other folks we know, but it was small-ish shows and it was totally unecessary), so I wasted a king's ransom on a huge rack case with a fancy power conditioner, rack tuner, POD (our drummer knew how to use it and insisted I have one, silly to me), 2 Hartke HA5500s, and a big drawer to house all the cables and paraphernalia needed to run it all through 2 410XLs, and 2 115XLs. I must say, if I hadn't switched to combos, those 410XLs are tough to beat to my ears, but that was WAY more stuff than I could've ever needed. Oh, and the obligatory wireless rig, which sucked and got used like twice. Now I have 2 basses, 4 pedals (one a tuner), 2 combos and a power strip, and it's more than enough for anything I'll ever do with it.
 
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Back in my "I wanna be Chris Squire" days, I of course had to have a Rickenbacker. Just kinda of the wrong bass for a Urban Contemporary church, 'nam sayin? Then when I went to a 5 string, I had to have a cabinet that could handle the fundamentals of my low B. I still have my Acme B210, but it mostly serves as the sub for my home theater system. My GK MB 210 is SO much easier to carry, though I gotta be careful, the bass boost and the Meatbox WILL make it fart out. I still want something that sounds/feels like Squire's Taurus foot pedals. Whether that would be useful or not....
 
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Bass players tend to be a skeptical bunch; and I don't really recall any bass related gear being truly hyped, except maybe by over zealous manufacturers here and there. We do certainly get more what I would refer to as Buzz going on; and, yes, I recall some of that over things like neck through construction, graphite necks, etc etc. Most of that stuff has followed a pretty Darwinian path, where stuff that doesn't really work just tends to go away. The bass guitar is still a relatively new instrument. But, I am starting to feel like a lot of the problems have been solved.

As far as gear making the player better, I think @Dr. Cheese said it best:
The bottom line is the more I got out and started playing, the more it really sank in that the player, not the bass, makes the difference.
The player makes the instrument, not the other way around. All a cat needs is a solid player instrument and 12 hours in the shed every day. The fancy gear is fun and all; but, it's kind of like dessert. The meat of the deal is the dedication, study, and work.