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P bass - bastard

I'm doing a small ''in a project break - project''... I try to do ONE project at the time, but I can't say that I'm good at it :) Now I'm working on two big projects and this smaller and faster one...

I noticed someone posted about the really cheap necks G&L are selling, and I could not resist buying two of them. They are on their way through the Danish customs now. I ordered maple / maple with the 1 3/4" nut with - so it's P bass time. This will be kind of a p-bass bastard with the G&L neck and the Fender shaped body. Or a sort of Fender tribute if you will, and I'm trying to keep the cost down on this one. I already have some tuners, pick guard, pots, caps, screws etc so basically I just needed a body and a pick up.

Someone posted this ash p-bass body for sale here locally in Denmark, and I got it really cheap. I think he bought the wrong type of ash wood, this is clearly not swamp ash, the body was heavy as a hell. It was 7.2 pounds..!!! He abandoned the project and I bought it despite the weight because I had this plan with it: Chamber it like crazy, take down the thickness and then use some nice sets of walnut and redwood I got cheap of e-bay (like $30 or both sets). The final body is 44mm thick, so standard Fender thickness.

As you can tell from the pics I have tried to maintain a ''tone block'' down the center from the neck to the bridge, so I did not chamber it totally crazy. The finished body is 5.1 pound, not super light, but much better. The first picture where the body is on top of the front / back woods is not the final chambering, the body was still too heavy, so I drilled more holes, and what you see in the second picture is the final result. Quite a lot of holes, but still a nice tone block down the center.

It's now glued, routed and sanded to 120 grit, and I just gave it a bit of Danish oil to bring out the colors. I think this will be cool with the maple / maple neck..! Next - when the necks arrive - will be to route a neck pocket that fit's the G&L neck.
 
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Thanks..! Good to hear, that you like the neck. I used to own an G&L SB2 and I really liked that bass exept for the neck that was more like a Jazz neck, strange with that neck since the SB2 is more like a P bas. I prefer wider necks, so I think these will be great for me, and for this project.
 
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I'm doing a small ''in a project break - project''... I try to do ONE project at the time, but I can't say that I'm good at it :) Now I'm working on two big projects and this smaller and faster one...

I noticed someone posted about the really cheap necks G&L are selling, and I could not resist buying two of them. They are on their way through the Danish customs now. I ordered maple / maple with the 1 3/4" nut with - so it's P bass time. This will be kind of a p-bass bastard with the G&L neck and the Fender shaped body. Or a sort of Fender tribute if you will, and I'm trying to keep the cost down on this one. I already have some tuners, pick guard, pots, caps, screws etc so basically I just needed a body and a pick up.

Someone posted this ash p-bass body for sale here locally in Denmark, and I got it really cheap. I think he bought the wrong type of ash wood, this is clearly not swamp ash, the body was heavy as a hell. It was 7.2 pounds..!!! He abandoned the project and I bought it despite the weight because I had this plan with it: Chamber it like crazy, take down the thickness and then use some nice sets of walnut and redwood I got cheap of e-bay (like $30 or both sets). The final body is 44mm thick, so standard Fender thickness.

As you can tell from the pics I have tried to maintain a ''tone block'' down the center from the neck to the bridge, so I did not chamber it totally crazy. The finished body is 5.1 pound, not super light, but much better. The first picture where the body is on top of the front / back woods is not the final chambering, the body was still too heavy, so I drilled more holes, and what you see in the second picture is the final result. Quite a lot of holes, but still a nice tone block down the center.

It's now glued, routed and sanded to 120 grit, and I just gave it a bit of Danish oil to bring out the colors. I think this will be cool with the maple / maple neck..! Next - when the necks arrive - will be to route a neck pocket that fit's the G&L neck.

Great work as usual Morten!

Body looks amazing and I love the back, of course - You had me 1000% until you laid that plastic pick guard on there.

I would have used that fabulous top to cover the front channel rout too - and re-routed the control cavity from the rear and kept away from covering up that fabulous top wood with anything. That wood is so nice. But how about a unique contrasting wood or - say an ostrich or other exotic leather pick guard?

Of course, that is the environmentalist in me talking....which these days usually wins the battles I always fight with myself...

:):):)

Don't get me wrong - it REALLY looks nice! Great job!
 
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Hi BassHappy - thanks man - and great inputs as always :)

I was seriously considering to do like you say: Let the red wood top cover the front channel route, make a control cavity from the rear etc... In the end I choose to do this, because I like to have ONE bass with a pick guard on it, and I like it to be a traditional P bass with a few twists. My other projects are with more or less fancy wood tops, funky shapes and what not.

The black pick guard is just because that is the one I have. I have been thinking that one of those gold anodized aluminum ones might be cool. It could be a nice ''bridge'' to the maple and ash woods. Another thought is to route a pick guard from maple to match the neck - but then I'm moving more and more away from the classical P bass look and feel.
 
Hi BassHappy - thanks man - and great inputs as always :)

I was seriously considering to do like you say: Let the red wood top cover the front channel route, make a control cavity from the rear etc... In the end I choose to do this, because I like to have ONE bass with a pick guard on it, and I like it to be a traditional P bass with a few twists. My other projects are with more or less fancy wood tops, funky shapes and what not.

The black pick guard is just because that is the one I have. I have been thinking that one of those gold anodized aluminum ones might be cool. It could be a nice ''bridge'' to the maple and ash woods. Another thought is to route a pick guard from maple to match the neck - but then I'm moving more and more away from the classical P bass look and feel.

Hey Morten

Gold anodized sounds great - and hey - I totally understand if you have a need for a more traditional P Bass design on this one.

Very cool...

Can you point me to any photos of your other earlier builds? I would like to get up to speed on what else you have done!

Thanks again!
 
I just ordered one of those gold anodized aluminium pick guards, so I hope you forgive me for choosing a pick guard for this build :)

Regarding builds: I should have been more precise and mentioned ''the builds I'm working on now, and the ones that I'm thinking about doing next''. Actually I have not yet completed a build, where I have done everything from scratch. For instance I have not tried to carve a neck yet. I have done some repairs and modifications of basses and guitars (threads are here on the forum somewhere), but I'm yet to finish my first build. I'm the new guy here... Soon to finish this smaller project, and my first complete build(s).
 
I just ordered one of those gold anodized aluminium pick guards, so I hope you forgive me for choosing a pick guard for this build :)

Regarding builds: I should have been more precise and mentioned ''the builds I'm working on now, and the ones that I'm thinking about doing next''. Actually I have not yet completed a build, where I have done everything from scratch. For instance I have not tried to carve a neck yet. I have done some repairs and modifications of basses and guitars (threads are here on the forum somewhere), but I'm yet to finish my first build. I'm the new guy here... Soon to finish this smaller project, and my first complete build(s).

Hey Morten

The pick guard sounds great. I just have a strong aversion to plastic for environmental reasons.

Regardless of being fairly new here - You are very talented with a nice eye for detail...

I will be watching as this and the spalted bass continue.
 
Hey Morten

The pick guard sounds great. I just have a strong aversion to plastic for environmental reasons.

Anodizing aluminum takes some seriously nasty chemicals so I'm not sure if this is more sustainable - but I really like these gold anodized pick guards together with maple/maple necks. And on this one it will also be a good connection to the ash wood in the body (I think).

Thank you so much for your kind words - what a great motivation to get the spalted bass finished :thumbsup:
 
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Time for an update on this one - I'm almost done with this little ''in a project break project''.

The G&L necks arrived, and they are really nice. I can't believe that they sell these for $33..! I have routed the neck pocket and it's just about perfect. When I routed it I discovered that the pocket was all wrong in this half finished body I bought - it was too deep. Honestly I did not even think about checking the dept when I got it, had I done that and discovered the problem I could have routed more off the top when I took the thickness down. Anyway, I needed to come up with a solution to fix this. I don't have any ash or maple, so I decided to use some of the black walnut that I had left from the wood that is now the back of the bass. I think this works OK and kind of turns the flaw into a feature.

I have drilled most of the holes also: Bridge, neck, and the ones for the strap buttons.

Also I had to re-work the finish. The redwood is quite soft and the Danish oil finish did not give enough protection. Even though I'm careful when working there was already little dents on the surface... So I sanded it all down and gave the top 3 layers of epoxy with sanding between layers. For the top finish I will use the Danish oil - the last picture shows the body with a coat of oil applied. With the epoxy on the top the redwood is much harder and more stable.
 
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The neck is done now... Just 3 frets needed a little leveling, and I have dressed the ends and polished everything. These are nice quality necks..!

I think that I have found the reason why this one did not pass quality inspection (I think these necks they are selling so cheap are necks that has minor faults and therefore has not made it to a finished G&L instrument). Check one of the black dots - it's not glued perfectly. This is the only fault I have been able to find on this neck.
 
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It's beginning to look like a bass :) The gold aluminum pick guard arrived today and I have installed it and routed it to match the G&L neck pocket. As you can tell from the close up pics the Fender and G&L pocket are not the same with, the G&L is a bit narrower, so I got these small gaps to the sides of the pick guard - but it's no big deal.

I also did a bit of rework in the bridge area. The redwood is soft, I did not know this wood (I don't think we have it on this side of the big water and I'm not familiar with it). It's so soft, that it did not hold screws well and I thought it might not be a great tone wood for the bridge to sit on either. So I routed away the redwood and glued in a block of padauk. It's a bit smaller than the foot print of the bridge, so it's not visible with the bridge installed.

Over all I really like how this one is turning out, especially considering that it's made quite cheap. The maple neck, the ash wood, the redwood top and the gold pick guard is a great combination - IMHO.
 
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Someone not liking P basses, liking my P bass bastard... Thanks man :)

The other builds I have in progress, and the next ones I have planned in my mind are no where near Fender'ish, but I like to have one in the stable that is a traditional P bass with a few tweaks. And I love P basses..! There is just something soooo nice about the tone of a P bass, flats, palm mute and played with a pick. That's a tone I really, really like... Here is an example on what I mean (One of my favorite bands also):