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P-Bass - MIM vs. MIA

I realize this question has probably never come up in here, but I'm a long time 6-string player who's always wanted to play bass. Last night, I found a MIM P-Bass that looks great and wanted to ask...having owned many American Strats and Teles, will I regret not buying an American P-Bass? Blindfolded, how can I tell the difference? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
I walked into my local bass dealer five months ago with $1,000 looking to buy a MIA pbass and left with a MiM. I couldn't justify spending $600 more on the MIA when the only thing I could find that was superior was the finish.
Thats the thing about MiMs though, you have to be able to play them before you decide if you're gonna buy them. Some are gems((like mine :D)) while some are trash((though salvageable via set-up and upgrades)) . You can purchase an MIA without playing one in a store and be pretty sure that it will be a quality instrument.


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There's another Fender P-Bass option you may want to consider. It is the Classic Series 50's Precision Bass. Out the door, brand new with a decent gig bag it'll cost ~$625. It is MIM but built to a higher standard; it is virtually identical to the MIA '57 reissue. The 1-piece maple neck is 1.75" wide at the nut and it has a gold anodized pickguard. These basses are good to go right out of the box, no mods needed.
 
There's another Fender P-Bass option you may want to consider. It is the Classic Series 50's Precision Bass. Out the door, brand new with a decent gig bag it'll cost ~$625. It is MIM but built to a higher standard; it is virtually identical to the MIA '57 reissue. The 1-piece maple neck is 1.75" wide at the nut and it has a gold anodized pickguard. These basses are good to go right out of the box, no mods needed.

I've read great things about these P-basses. I've never played one, but my AV '57 is my favorite right now of my Precisions mostly because I'm finding the flat neck so comfortable so if these MIM versions are using the same neck I'd grab one. He can always change pickups later if he finds the MIM pups aren't cutting it.
 
I agree that you can find a real gem by trying different MIMs. Last week, I found a MIM Jazz at GC for $274 (with gig bag). There were three available and one just played like ant MIA so I bought it on the spot. I have had great luck with MIM P and J basses, but I recommend trying them out......some are MUCH better than others. IMO, the MIM basses come much closer to MIA than the guitars (Fender). Also, you can upgrade a MIM bass easily and it will cost much less than an MIA.

As you can tell, I like the MIM Fenders because I think they are a great "bang for the buck." Obviously, the MIAs are just better....but the MIMs are close for the price. MAKE SURE YOU PLAY EACH ONE TO FIND THAT GEM. Some are literally just missing that USA finish.
 
I have a 2008 MIA Jazz that I just love ... it's my "baby". The bridge and other improvements that are specific to the 08 models are great, although I will admit my own personal reason for buying the MIA at the time I did was simply because of perception of MIA vs. MIM. I'm not saying the perception of the MIA is not earned ... I love my MIA and think it is worth every penny.

However, I traded a bass I never used for a used MIM Standard Precision in which the previous owner upgraded the pickup, and it's simply awesome. Could I tell "blindfolded" between mine and an MIA ... I think so, but I wouldn't bet too much on it.

Then last week I bought a used MIM Classic Series 50's Precision Bass (also mentioned above by others) for $450 Canadian ... I am completely stunned by how nice this bass is and the tone is simply incredible. Highly recommended if you don't mind the slightly wider neck (which to a 6-string player may actually be preferable).

I've also previously owned an MIM Deluxe P Special ... beautifully built, no quality control issues.

So I think you could be very happy with an MIM of you want a great deal. With all that said, if I could only have ONE bass, I would pay the extra for the MIA only because it will hold it's value better. Oh ... also the graphite truss in the MIA is important to me too ... living in Canada, my basses are prone to some drastic variations in weather!
 
i own an mim tele guitar and have used many MIM, MIJ, and MIA basses.

the differences are much like the guitars. most of the differences are aesthetic, the non american might start to hum after a while but a shielding job would fix it no problem. the pick ups might be of a "lesser" quality but without a pristine amp and cab, majority of people wont hear the difference.
 
I've read great things about these P-basses. I've never played one, but my AV '57 is my favorite right now of my Precisions mostly because I'm finding the flat neck so comfortable so if these MIM versions are using the same neck I'd grab one. He can always change pickups later if he finds the MIM pups aren't cutting it.

The neck is the classic wide (1.75"), thin, flat P-Bass neck with small frets. I don't think the pups are the typical MIM pups, I think they're the same pups as the MIA pups but I'm not 100% sure of that; whatever they are, I see no need to replace them. It also has reverse tuners, the bridge has threaded saddles and adjusts with a jeweler's screwdriver rather than an allen wrench. This bass gets a LOT of love on the Fender board.
 
You can purchase used MIA P Basses in these classifieds for reasonable money. Especially if you consider new MIM + case versus a really nice used MIA here. I just sold one for $650 shipped with case.

CIJ are known to be nice also although they go for about the same as MIA. Haven't picked up an MIM lately but the neck profiles used to be different from MIA, not that it matters if you like either.

Either way welcome to the forum.

Everyone pretty much sees eye to eye here. :eek:
 
I think if you are used to playing MIA Fenders, you will find going to an MIM version a step back. IMHO, there is a perceivable difference in tone, general fit\finish and quality of hardware\components between the two. If you are used to playing MIA plus series instruments, I find the difference to actually be quite remarkable...
 
I'm primarily a guitar player, have been coming here for a while, there's tons of great info from some pretty hot players. I'm all for supporting U.S. manufacturing, so if the price difference isn't much of an issue, get the MIA instrument, most people never regret spending the extra dough. The MIA bodies have better cuts of wood (usually fewer pieces, less glue, often lighter), the hardware is better quality and in the electronics are usually (though not always) a step up from the MIM instruments.

That said, what level of guitar are you satisfied with? I'd been pretty gung-ho about my Custom Shop '60 Strat reissue, had convinced myself that anything less would be cheesy compared to a classic pre-CBS Fender. But in the last year, I've bought some MIM Strats and am very impressed. The tuners are of lesser quality and the tremolo block is of cheaper material and it's smaller, too. But dang, overall the experience of playing it is very satisfying. I even prefer the pickups on the MIM Jimmy Vaughn Strat to some boutique brands, I think they strike a good blend between fatness and top-end chime.

Ed Freidland has a video on youtube where he plays a number of Squier basses back to back with MIJ and CS Fender counterparts; he gets a killer groove going on all of them, the instruments don't seem to be holding back his playing.
 
I think, in general, a lot of the MIM Std. basses fall well short of the MIA lines. There are some examples where that isn't the case, but a $400 bass is supposed to, and usually does, fall short of a $1200 bass.

There are plenty of compromises to be made in between though. The Hwy1 series is MIA with a cheaper finish and some cheaper hardware than a MIA Std. The MIM Deluxe series feature pickups and electronics from the previous iteration of the MIA Deluxe lines, which are quite often way nicer than the MIM Std electronics. The MIM Classic series are MIM version of the American Vintage RI basses. These, I feel, are the best bang-for-the-buck basses in Fender's entire lineup. They obviously pay greater attention to these basses and it really shows in their consistency. These really do stand up to the MIA Std basses IMO, while still falling a bit short of the MIA Dlx and MIA RI basses that cost up to $1K more. My favorites are the Classic 50s P-bass in black and the Classic 70s Jazz in 3TSB.

Finally, if you play a bunch of MIM P-basses there might be one or two that are special. However, if you spend a little bit more money, you may find a really nice bass that doesn't require you to spend $1000.
 
MIA's are of better quality over all. The used market will help you save some $ either way. I have 2 MIM's with upgades and love them both. I have a MIM P and a J and both with up grades have cost less than 1 MIA.
 
got to thinking - Here's the $$ you'd spend, more or less, for a Warmoth P bass with a traditional 3 tone sunburst:

Body (Alder): $170
Paint: $220
Neck: $167
Neck finish, gloss $85

So for bod and neck, $642.
Good machines: ~$80 for hipshot tuners
Bridge: Badass II - ~$70
Pickup: Duncan quarter pound: $65
Pots/caps: $15
Misc Hardware (strap holders, knobs, etc): $20

So for a fully custom P-bass with better than stock Fender parts: $900, give or take, plus have any option you want. Pretty cool, all things considered. Pity you can't resell it for much.
 
BigOldHarry:

Where can you get a Badass II bridge for $70 these days? I'm in the market for one and I have only seen them listed for double that price.

To the others that commented on the MIM '57 Classic series P Bass:

I also just got one and as far as I know, all the woods, parts and electronics are IDENTICAL to the American Vintage series; the reason they are half the price is because they are assembled in Mexico. They are a step up to the MIM standard series and indeed a great bang for the buck!